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That is a 1957 date.
Lovely blog post. Probably its value is about equal to the Emmanuel Cooper bowl standing next to it on your mantelpiece. But as you say, that is not the point. Its being able to have a piece by one of the greatest practitioner of our age, and feeling comfortable with owning and admiring it.
These sets must have been quite extraordinary in the drab post-war 1950's. Made in quantity, yet with such gorgeous spartan modernistic beauty. I have had the pleasure of handling such pieces (with auction viewing as a hobby one could do it!)and they are just so superbly balanced, light as a feather, with beautiful elegance.
Lucky you!.
Lovely blog post. Probably its value is about equal to the Emmanuel Cooper bowl standing next to it on your mantelpiece. But as you say, that is not the point. Its being able to have a piece by one of the greatest practitioner of our age, and feeling comfortable with owning and admiring it.
These sets must have been quite extraordinary in the drab post-war 1950's. Made in quantity, yet with such gorgeous spartan modernistic beauty. I have had the pleasure of handling such pieces (with auction viewing as a hobby one could do it!)and they are just so superbly balanced, light as a feather, with beautiful elegance.
Lucky you!.
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Yes one can hold a Lucie dish in one's hand. Actually in this case twixt finger and thumb in one hand while trying to take a decent photo with the other...well, a not very good photo then! A black and white glazed round soup bowl which would usually have come in sets of six. Beautifully light. The accompanying is for 1957 (same year as the teascup!). 1957/58 seems to be about peak year for these sort of domestic items. At an auction viewing a few years ago.
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r-and-f wrote:A plain black teacup by Lucie Rie discovered among a cheap auction lot of pots by a local amateur potter. Lovely to own but at the same time problematic.
Didn't someone on this forum have aan odd black tea saucer not that long ago?
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Back in the 1950s Alan Wallwork sold other pots besides his own from his first studio in Forest Hill and at Christmas took cups and saucers on SOR from Lucie Rie (only at Christmas because they were expensive - 1/4 rather than 6d).
I remember him moaning about them because the saucers didn't have indents in the middle and so the cups were unstable. She did change this later but it has meant that these saucers (without the usual indents) have sold on eBay for £1000. Probably more now, as I haven't looked for years.
So who needs the cup?
I remember him moaning about them because the saucers didn't have indents in the middle and so the cups were unstable. She did change this later but it has meant that these saucers (without the usual indents) have sold on eBay for £1000. Probably more now, as I haven't looked for years.
So who needs the cup?
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£321 for a saucer on Ebay on March 7. It had a slight infilled chip.
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how can you display and admire a saucer?
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You stick on a shelf with a display stand Dan....
As to the second part. Well, whole libraries have been written on the kernel of that question. What is Art? Why are we supposed to admire some things and not others? The answer?
Meself I don't quite get your saucer fingy. If we change the nomenclature would that help? A Bon-Bon dish? A circular ceramic pattern with a black hole centre?
I know; Lets up the sides a bit , invest in a whole cultural mumbo-jumbo, history and formality, and call it a 'chawan'. There you are its near art, and part of the whole Anglo-Oriental mystique wheeze. Let alone great marketing. But in the end its only a teensy-winsy altered saucer.
Same with a Yunomi. Its only a bloomin Mug!
As to the second part. Well, whole libraries have been written on the kernel of that question. What is Art? Why are we supposed to admire some things and not others? The answer?
Meself I don't quite get your saucer fingy. If we change the nomenclature would that help? A Bon-Bon dish? A circular ceramic pattern with a black hole centre?
I know; Lets up the sides a bit , invest in a whole cultural mumbo-jumbo, history and formality, and call it a 'chawan'. There you are its near art, and part of the whole Anglo-Oriental mystique wheeze. Let alone great marketing. But in the end its only a teensy-winsy altered saucer.
Same with a Yunomi. Its only a bloomin Mug!
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What you really need to do is make a similar box for that lovely Alan Wallwork!
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The square box frame was made by my woodworker friend Ron. I'm not going to ask him to make one for the Wallwork because it isn't missing its saucer. At least I don't think it is .
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Truth to tell, I have (a) never before used a box for displaying anything, and (b) never before wanted to display a cup without a saucer.
You will comprend le tout if you read my recent blog post about the extraordinarily problematic nature of owning and displaying a Lucie Rie cup with no saucer. You can find it here for soporific bedtime reading.
You will comprend le tout if you read my recent blog post about the extraordinarily problematic nature of owning and displaying a Lucie Rie cup with no saucer. You can find it here for soporific bedtime reading.
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Re. the square box-frame. Many years and two house moves ago my wife wanted to display four biggish vases but didn't want 'boring' shelves. I happened to go to a small local auction's general sale - mainly house clearance stuff - and saw a knackered old solid wood dressing table. It had three drawers each sjde of the kneehole, the bottom four being approx 6" high, 10" wide and 18" deep. Well constructed, neat dovetail joints and so on. I bought it for the grand sum of £1 + fees.
I took the drawer bottoms out and replaced them with mirrors cut from a mirror I'd saved from the door of an old wardrobe, sanded and painted the wood, attached brackets and put them up on the wall. Very cheap but attractive box display units and lots of brownie points for me.
I took the drawer bottoms out and replaced them with mirrors cut from a mirror I'd saved from the door of an old wardrobe, sanded and painted the wood, attached brackets and put them up on the wall. Very cheap but attractive box display units and lots of brownie points for me.
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https://www.phillips.com/article/60789953/lucie-rie-estate-of-claire-frankel-new-york-design-auction/
A very interesting piece written by Alison Britton on the 10 pieces of Lucie Rie from the estate of Claire Frankel. Her late husband Cyril Frankel was a very close friend and collector of Lucie Rie. He was also the expert who organised the Hugely successful Bonhams studio pottery auction in the 1990.s,
A very interesting piece written by Alison Britton on the 10 pieces of Lucie Rie from the estate of Claire Frankel. Her late husband Cyril Frankel was a very close friend and collector of Lucie Rie. He was also the expert who organised the Hugely successful Bonhams studio pottery auction in the 1990.s,
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Circa What date is that Studio?
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I think from memory it had Coper's mark too but the "mustard" internal glaze points to early to mid 1950s from other examples with that glaze that I have seen.
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Sheesh it makes you think. What is the value of that now? £4000 or thereabouts? Those being roughly £10. 400% rise in value. I wonder if there any domestic pottery that has risen at those sort of levels?
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I think that should be 40000%
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You are right of course
I should have used the calculator!
I should have used the calculator!
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