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Post by philpot May 22nd 2021, 10:14 am

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194148195302?hash=item2d34225be6:g:-E0AAOSwYsRgp11o

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A seller with exactly 3 Feedback on Ebay. A model boat stylised John Maltby England on the front. Never seen that signature before.
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Post by NaomiM May 22nd 2021, 12:53 pm

It's very similar to his boats on this page

https://fishinkblog.com/2011/12/15/john-maltby-birds-and-boats/

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Post by dantheman May 22nd 2021, 12:56 pm

yes it looks legit' to me

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Post by croker May 22nd 2021, 2:26 pm

hi, probably ok but would need provenance, user name TOYMAK50 rings an alarm bell.
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Post by dantheman May 22nd 2021, 2:30 pm

the bid is £250 so TOYMAK50 is in for a good payday

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Post by croker May 22nd 2021, 2:38 pm

with rising prices and the relative ease in which these things can be copied i think a certain amount of provenance is essential, just because an item looks ok or similar to others it does not mean it's right.
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Post by dantheman May 22nd 2021, 4:57 pm

I know a guy who made Poole pottery animals for over 10 years after acquiring the original molds
fake pots are old news

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Post by croker May 22nd 2021, 5:17 pm

hi dantheman, Am i to take it that by the tone of your reply that my comments are not relevant any more.
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Post by dantheman May 22nd 2021, 5:24 pm

no you shouldn't. I wasn't Dissing you

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Post by croker May 22nd 2021, 5:43 pm

ok thanks , like you i have seen a number of fakes in the past from 18th century pottery through to troika and whitefriars glass ,these fakes or reproductions only undermine the confidence of potential new buyers and the point i was trying to make was that items like maltbys constructions are fairly easy to fake and should be approached carefully .
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Post by NaomiM June 3rd 2021, 5:52 pm

dantheman wrote:the bid is £250 so TOYMAK50 is in for a good payday

sold for £555. An experienced collector on FB bought it and it had 25 bids so I think it's legit.

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Post by studio-pots June 3rd 2021, 7:56 pm

NaomiM wrote:
dantheman wrote:the bid is £250 so TOYMAK50 is in for a good payday

sold for £555. An experienced collector on FB bought it and it had 25 bids so I think it's legit.

A man that keeps Pete the Postie in a job (and biscuits) for those in the know.

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Post by philpot June 6th 2021, 8:46 am

The gentleman in question must have a house like the Tardis, given how big his collection must be!
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Post by NaomiM June 6th 2021, 11:52 am

There is one collector of Maltbys collages, etc, who has them displayed floor to ceiling

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Post by philpot June 6th 2021, 4:15 pm

Would that be the Gent from Yorkshire?
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Post by NaomiM June 6th 2021, 4:59 pm

Lol, I dont know where they are. Online, somewhere in the ether like the rest of us. Big Laughter

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Post by studio-pots June 7th 2021, 1:13 pm

philpot wrote:Would that be the Gent from Yorkshire?
If we are talking about this one, then it's nearer to you........ in deepest Suffolk.

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Post by philpot June 8th 2021, 3:23 pm

Oh you mean the Sargent Big Fan as well!
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Post by studio-pots June 9th 2021, 10:11 pm

My lips are sealed. He's also very keen on slipware.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. June 28th 2021, 11:59 pm

?? I'm stunned by some of these? Sure hope pottery does not become 'mainstream'

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/John-Maltby-Swinging-Boat-/194200425684?hash=item2d373f54d4%3Ag%3ACrcAAOSwSdVgxgQV&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Huge-Alan-Wallwork-Pierced-Oval-Structure-52-x-25cm-Studio-Pottery-/294246457786?hash=item448274a1ba%3Ag%3A75oAAOSwl-hg0-g-&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Large-John-Maltby-034-Owl-and-Wall-034-Sculpture-Studio-Pottery-36cm-2012-/294105254610?hash=item447a0a0ad2%3Ag%3A8EoAAOSwOERfn4-s&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557





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Post by philpot June 29th 2021, 7:29 am

I must admit when I saw the asking price on that Big Maltby I muttered Nahhhhh. More fool me. That must be a near record price for him.
The MALTBY model piece was quite a sizeable sum for what have probably been bought cheaper at an ordinary auction.

A new expensive dawn for the prices of studio pottery? Ii dunno. There is an awful lot of silly, hot money sloshing around the world monetary system now. From the Bonkers rise of cryptocurrencies like Bitcon ( a subject completely unitelligible to me!) to the oversubscribed market launches of tech unicorns whose only claim to fame is that have already lost £billions, to the record breaking prices in the British housing market.
Its all looking for ways to keep value, when in the real world value of money itself is being lessened through inflation being more than in interest rates.
There is a feeling of herd panic in the air, of South Sea Bubbles, of Black Dutch Tulips, of 1920's like stock market crashes.,,,,
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Post by croker June 29th 2021, 1:21 pm

hi crawford, not sure what you mean by becoming 'mainstream'
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Post by studio-pots June 29th 2021, 3:48 pm

I have noticed over recent months that a number of popular ceramic items have made higher prices on eBay than in other auctions and galleries.

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Post by NaomiM June 29th 2021, 4:20 pm

I’ve seen pieces sold at auction that have turned up on eBay for twice the price. I suspect it’s a couple of dealers doing it. Auction prices are high enough as it is as collectors pile in thinking they’ll get a bargain.

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Post by studio-pots June 29th 2021, 4:55 pm

A dealer bought some Maltby's from me last year at a price that I was happy with and I was congratulated by another dealer in getting the prices that I did.

The person that bought the items from me only sold one piece on eBay, as far as I know, and that went for more than double what he bought it from me for. That was before Maltby died too.

It doesn't bother me personally but I have never understood collectors that won't look or buy unless it's an auction situation. Maybe it's the excitement and a similar buzz to gambling that attracts them. Perhaps that they need to be convinced that it is as good as they believe it is. I don't know.

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