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Chinese famille rose - later copies Empty Chinese bowl - Famille Rose Canton Porcelain

Post by styleinvasion March 6th 2013, 7:23 pm

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i thought it will be easy to date and identify.... but i can't find it at gotheborg
any clues are highly appreciated
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Post by NaomiM March 6th 2013, 7:27 pm

Famille Rose Canton Porcelain. I'd estimate mid century or later.

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Post by styleinvasion March 7th 2013, 12:08 am

it says Zhong Guo Zhi Zao
which just means made in china....
and i guess your estimate is right Clap
i think it's quite well done
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Chinese famille rose - later copies Empty Two pair of vases - Modern Canton Chinese

Post by Crowfoot June 4th 2016, 4:57 pm

Hello all! It's been a while since I logged in last.

The other day, I stumbled across these two fine vases on a garage sale in my hometown. I live in Sweden, and I tried to identify the mark in the bottom of the vase on my own, but with no luck!

I'm guessing they are pretty new. Probably from the late 19's, but I'm not certain. I tried to google my way around, but could not find this particular mark anywhere. I had hopes, that perhaps someone here could tell me something about it. You seem to know a great deal!

Like how old they are?
And are they chineese or japanese?

I'm just a green amateur who loves chinese porcelain and culture.   Embarrassed
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Hope you guys can help me identify them! They look beautiful in my living room

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Post by NaomiM June 4th 2016, 7:20 pm

Cantonese porcelain from China. Modern copies, I'm afraid. I have an original 19thC one in the garage and although the designs are traditional, the difference is technique is very noticeable.

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Post by denbydump June 16th 2019, 9:42 am

From Gotheborg.com. Late 1960s onwards.
Zhongguo Zhi Zao - 中国制造 - "China Made" (Modern style, reads left to right).

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Chinese famille rose - later copies Empty Kutani or Rose Medallion ware? - probably Canton, China

Post by denbydump August 15th 2020, 6:20 pm

A pretty set of 8 (1 damaged) tiny bowls, 1 7/8 dia  x 1 in high.
All have different hand painted figures, polychrome enamelling and gilding.
Surely too small for tea, so I'm gussing Sake cups, and probably missing a decanter?
I can make out one of the Kutani symbols, but can't figure out the rest.

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Post by denbydump August 15th 2020, 6:21 pm

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Post by studio-pots August 16th 2020, 5:46 pm

I imagine they weren't made to be sold together but they would/could have been sold without a sake bottle (tokkuri).

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Post by NaomiM August 16th 2020, 6:12 pm

I don’t think they are kutani. The motifs are closer to Chinese Canton export porcelain, especially the cabbage leafs the immortals are sitting on

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Post by denbydump August 16th 2020, 9:41 pm

I searched endlessly on the marks sites trying to nail down any symbol
I could find, but all I could see was the one (half) of the usual kutani mark.
It's in there, maybe clearer on other cups. I'll do some more pics sonetime.
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Post by NaomiM August 16th 2020, 11:04 pm

I’m not finding anything that resembles this set - the mark or the decoration - on the Kutani pages.
It’s a partial ink stamp.

http://modernjapanesepotterymarks.blogspot.com/2011/05/kutani.html?m=1

I’m sure it’s Canton ware. I watched a video recently explaining the differences between four main forms of famille rose Canton wares. The fruit and flower border on yours is found on medallion etc wares

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t20415-chinese-ceramic-bowl-chinese-famille-rose-canton-medallion-ware

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Chinese famille rose - later copies Empty Kutani or Rose Medallion ware?

Post by denbydump August 17th 2020, 2:58 pm

Some more base pics. The foot is barely 1/2 in dia, so the marks are very small.

I have highlighted what I imagined is a kutani character.
Maybe coincidental of spurious.

I have had problems before trying to find ANY of the chatacters on Chinese items.

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Post by NaomiM August 21st 2020, 11:13 pm

I’ve split it off from the Kutani thread because I’m pretty sure it’s Rose Medallion ware from Hong Kong

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Post by aiko August 22nd 2020, 8:41 am

the red circle around foot rim is odd and the glass is too pristine and shiny. Not onder than second half of 20th century or maybe 21st. and from China, imo
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Post by janetpjohn August 22nd 2020, 8:13 pm

The character you circled does mean "nine" in Japanese, as in "nine valleys=kutani", but it means something else in Chinese.
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Post by denbydump August 23rd 2020, 9:10 am

A Ha! I thought I wasn't imagining it, but of course it sent me down the wrong path.
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Post by denbydump October 11th 2020, 12:08 pm

Another modernish plate. Mark as above.

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Post by NaomiM October 11th 2020, 12:55 pm

Strictly speaking they are too late to be true famille rose, which was from the 17thC to 1912. After that they became a mix of styles and modern glazes

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Post by APEX-Antiques September 17th 2021, 2:39 pm

From my understanding, these pieces are early PRC period & likely Jingdezhen porcelain decorated in Macau or Hong Kong
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Post by denbydump November 13th 2021, 1:00 pm

"Qianlong Nian Zhi" "Qianlong Period Make". Modern mark, (after 1960).

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