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Post by l33ham180 November 1st 2010, 7:19 pm

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a old piece that i sold a while ago. the rarer pink jasperware and in perfect working order. from around the mid 80's if i remember correctly
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Post by skay November 8th 2010, 8:38 pm

Happy That is so kitsch it cool, it could've been in Dallas or Dynasty Jumping For Joy

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Post by lmcd1986 April 2nd 2011, 1:49 pm

Hello everyone,

Just wanted to say what a great community you've got here and I'm glad this forum exists!

Right onto the problem at hand. I picked up a piece of Wedgwood Jasperware at a charity shop and I'm looking to sell it on. But I'm having trouble dating/valuing it. I've attached some pictures below, the only real solid piece of information I have is that the words 'Made in England' were added to Wedgwood Jasperware after 1910.

I'm particularly interested to find out what the GR stamp means.

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Thanks for any help you can give.

All the best,

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Post by dantheman April 2nd 2011, 2:07 pm

the GR mark can be seen on 1970's and 1980's production but I don't know what the initials stand for
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Post by Oldmagpie April 2nd 2011, 4:11 pm

GR is most likely the initials of the modeller who applied the decoration.
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Post by gareth-h April 5th 2011, 9:11 pm

That backstamp was used from 1970.
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Post by geheime geschiedenis June 27th 2011, 1:39 pm

Hello Folks,
It is great to be back. I hope this will not be too hard for anyone. I have three wedgewood books, and no joy, I also have a great story too tell that happened at an auction i attended saturday.
but now this may be my 10th post, and for all mods starting to pounce on my thread correctness, Iam sure I will do this correctly on the very first go.
Thanks so much, and btw I may be on the otherside of the forum as i have a very 20th century piece just barely, 1910 i think maybe 1911 but i will have to read FAQ's again to find outy my best forum as i do not want mods too have to work so hard to move my thread etc, its called the perfect post everytime, and finally what can i say, het de rood nummer viefjte car met tweede plaats van de valencia, uitstekend!!!!


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Post by gareth-h June 27th 2011, 11:04 pm

Um, not quite perfect. there's no base mark picture Doh!

Wedgwood made this stuff for years but I don't think this is particularly old, it is quite a common shape. 1970's or '80's I would have thought. You are safe in the 20th century forum.
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Post by geheime geschiedenis June 27th 2011, 11:20 pm

If I had given the bottom photo, then it would have been too easy, my bad.
I did think about it, but my loupe was in my desk, and i was not near my desk. It reads wedgewood, it has a letter P. it also has a single line under the made in england incised mard, and the line is incised and also free hand, then a faint two character incised or impression mark. it would have not shown up on the pic. i see many that are plain on the sides. this dish has children on each viginette, in different scences. also if you have a name for it.
I thought the same 1975, is that not the date gree sage jasperware began????


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Post by DAVID24/5 June 29th 2016, 5:34 pm

'Prunus Blossom' pattern (made for primrose yellow jasperware, mid to late 70s I think) seen here on a blue ginger jar. Dated '75.

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Post by denbydump June 29th 2016, 6:59 pm

Not a shape one sees often David.
The world is awash with Jasper ware at the moment, but the
saving grace is that the Japanese seem to be buying it in quantity.
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Post by l33ham180 July 3rd 2016, 10:23 pm

I always seem to end up with loads of it for Christmas so I have boxes of the stuff. I should really sell it on but its always for a few quid here and there unless you have the rarer bits
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Post by Johners2000 February 2nd 2017, 4:57 pm

I have a Wedgwood Biscuit barrel and I'm not exactly sure of the date. It has no England mark so I know it's early.

On the base it has the Wedgwood name and the letter X - plus it looks like the letter J close by.

So by my research it's either January 1868 or January 1895.

The barrel is mounted in pewter so no marks on the metalwork.

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Post by NaomiM February 2nd 2017, 7:07 pm

I think 1895 is more likely because by then they had passed the Duty Act which specified that the country of origin must be included on anything made for export

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Post by Johners2000 February 2nd 2017, 7:17 pm

As it doesn't have 'England' on it then presumably it was before the Duty Act (I don't know the date of this) or not made for export?
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Post by denbydump February 2nd 2017, 10:05 pm

this is known as "blue dip"

Much more likely to be tarnished silver plate than pewter.


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Post by NaomiM February 2nd 2017, 10:30 pm

My apologies, I read that as having an England stamp. Yes, without it is more likely to be the earlier date

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Post by Mordeep February 2nd 2017, 11:04 pm

Wedgewood can like many other things be dated by a combination of how it is made, how it is marked and what it is. Without the obvious date stamp you have to go with the time period certain marks were used. This is clearly 19th century because it does not have the England or the later made in England marks. The two choices you have given 1895 or 1868 sound about right. The question is which one.

Based on the size, its intended use I would have guessed 1870's so 1868 would be a good choice. 1895 is a bit late for these larger metal mounted barrels.

If your looking to move it one I would suggest holding back. A huge collection hit the market last year and I have been seeing this barrels by the tray full on various dealers stalls recently. Quality does vary in what's available but prices are very low with lots of choice for collectors.
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Post by Johners2000 February 2nd 2017, 11:25 pm

I was wondering if it might be earlier than 1868.

The reason being that it only has a single letter mark rather that a 3 character date mark.

The 'X' under the Wedgwood name looks more like potters marks rather than a date mark - the single impressed character mark could be a J or a C or even a U.
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Post by Mordeep February 3rd 2017, 5:36 am

Johners2000 wrote:I was wondering if it might be earlier than 1868.

The reason being that it only has a single letter mark rather that a 3 character date mark.

The 'X' under the Wedgwood name looks more like potters marks rather than a date mark - the single impressed character mark could be a J or a C or even a U.

Your right the single date late indicates from what I have read a pre 1860 date. Beyond that it gets a little vague. There appear to be lots of variations of the Wedgewood stamp, periods with no production of Jasperware and no indication of what year that letter relates to if it is a date code at all. I think a bit more digging is in order. There is lots on the web to get through, although lots appear to be copies of other data so do check the facts are that and not a mistake copied across multiple sites (it happens). I would be interested to hear if you get closer to a firm date.
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Post by Johners2000 February 3rd 2017, 11:15 am

I have done a little more research and emailed the Wedgwood Museum and it would appear that this is not pure jasper but a line of wares that ran along side the Jasper line called Bas-Relief. Bas-relief was more course grained and less detailed and generally is glazed on the inside.

Production of this would put the date between 1860 and 1930. Here's what the Museum said:

"Although three letter date stamps are very useful, they don't always appear on pieces post 1860. It is often a matter of looking at the general style and type of piece as well which enables to to put a date to something. The impressed mystery letter is in all likelihood a potters mark, and would have orginally identified who had made it - a useful thing considering so many people were at the time paid on piece work"

The museum dates my item at C1890.
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Post by Johners2000 February 3rd 2017, 12:02 pm

Just for info and reference here is the full response I got from the Wedgwood Museum archivist.

Dear Dan,

Thank you for your email. Your biscuit barrel is an example of bas- relief ware.
Following the date of circa 1850, with the revival of the Jasper body in general production, again the ‘dip’ colours were far more popular, but also a more basic ‘Bas Relief’ Ware was also produced side by side with the Jasper body proper.

To all intents and purposes, the Bas Relief Ware is extremely similar in appearance to true Jasper production. However, a closer examination reveals that true Jasper is a more fine-grained ceramic ware, whereas the Bas Relief production is more coarse-grained, tends to have the interiors of the pieces produced glazed, and the ornamentation is not as delicate.

Bas Relief Ware production which continued from circa the 1860s until the 1930s, was used in the production of, for example, biscuit barrels, tea wares, garden pots etc. ‘True’ Jasper tended to be utilised for more ornamental items such as vases, and candlesticks – although obviously there was some cross-over depending on the customers’ requirements.

I would imagine that it dates to c.1890. Although three letter date stamps are very useful, they don't always appear on pieces post 1860. It is often a matter of looking at the general style and type of piece as well which enables to to put a date to something. The impressed mystery letter is in all likelihood a potters mark, and would have orginally identified who had made it - a useful thing considering so many people were at the time paid on piece work.

Best wishes,

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Post by Mordeep February 3rd 2017, 12:25 pm

Cool to have so much detail and to have more information available about date coding for the period.
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Post by brissle April 13th 2017, 11:46 am

My wife inherited a lovely Wedgwood biscuit barrel many years ago - she has fond memories because as a child, 60 years ago, her grandfather gave her biscuits from the barrel as a treat.
Out of interest, we've been trying to find out details and the age of this barrel.
I looked on Google and think the design is called "Offering to Peace", but I can't find any images of a similar shape or colour.
I've uploaded some photos in the hope that someone can help us.
I can't find a date stamp anywhere - just the Wedgwood imprint on the base.  The lid is stamped EPNS and what looks like JCB&S Ltd and Made in England.  I assume that applies just to the lid?

If anyone can give us an idea of the age, that would be great.
If this is slightly valuable (we can't imagine it is) we might bequest it to one of our child
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Post by Johners2000 April 13th 2017, 12:10 pm

The lack of the England with the Wedgwood mark would suggest pre 1891.

The two comma marks generally indicate a date between 1795 and 1850 but they where used on later pieces.

Wedgwood is very tricky to date but I would say 1890s in date.

Lucy Lead at the Wedgwood museum is very helpful: lucy.lead@wedgwoodmuseum.com
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