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Bill Fisher
Many people aren't aware that Bill Fisher (Celtic Pottery) was also an artist.
Bill (William) Fisher was born in 1916 and studied at Camberwell Art College, before he moved to Mousehole - when we mostly know him for his pottery.
Much of his work to my mind is quite 'disturbed' and really distorts figures.
These two which I've just acquired are more 'normal' although the second is showing some of that distortion.
Perhaps those people with other drawings (including that self portrait) can add this this topic.
Bill (William) Fisher was born in 1916 and studied at Camberwell Art College, before he moved to Mousehole - when we mostly know him for his pottery.
Much of his work to my mind is quite 'disturbed' and really distorts figures.
These two which I've just acquired are more 'normal' although the second is showing some of that distortion.
Perhaps those people with other drawings (including that self portrait) can add this this topic.
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Here are the two pieces from my late brothers collection as mentioned elsewhere. They measure 24cms deep. My feeling is that my brother bought them in 1962 or 1963 when he was directing OUDS productions at the Minack.
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Of course there is no guarantee that this is the same Fisher, but it seems very likely. I also have a much larger painting in a similar style of an eagle on a sombre, dark green background. Just looking for it now. It must be in the East Wing!!
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Here is another, of Mousehole itself.
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Here's the signature.
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I found the Eagle... well a second rate photo of it, but you get the idea. I think it is a tremendously powerful image and I am not in the least surprised that my brother bought it.
I have a feeling that the white sheen at the top is something to do with my son when he was 8... needs investigating but no real damage done. :)
I will continue to hunt for the original.
I have a feeling that the white sheen at the top is something to do with my son when he was 8... needs investigating but no real damage done. :)
I will continue to hunt for the original.
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I am not certain the above brilliant black bird is by Fisher, but there is every chance.
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TW - Many thanks for these - FANTASTIC.
It is certainly the same Bill (William) Fisher. Some of the early pottery from him and Margaret were labeled as The Wharf Cottage. The 2nd mermaid is clearly the same hand, but this is the first time I've heard of Bakery Studio.
I'm also fairly certain the last bird is also Bill's, I have pottery with similar style images.
These are all different in style to other work of his I've seen - it never ceases to amaze me how versatile Bill was.
It seems to say that those two mermaids are hand coloured prints ? which would suggest others were made and sold.
Congratulations on some VERY NICE examples of Bill's work.
It is certainly the same Bill (William) Fisher. Some of the early pottery from him and Margaret were labeled as The Wharf Cottage. The 2nd mermaid is clearly the same hand, but this is the first time I've heard of Bakery Studio.
I'm also fairly certain the last bird is also Bill's, I have pottery with similar style images.
These are all different in style to other work of his I've seen - it never ceases to amaze me how versatile Bill was.
It seems to say that those two mermaids are hand coloured prints ? which would suggest others were made and sold.
Congratulations on some VERY NICE examples of Bill's work.
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Thanks for that. It has been fun finding out and getting to know something about the artist.
Now. Who knows anything about John Martin from much the same era?
Now. Who knows anything about John Martin from much the same era?
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Celtic Pottery - William & Margaret Fisher Mousehole Greetings Cards
Bit of a lurker on the forums as love studio pottery, but know nothing about it.
Inherited some pieces and also came across a collection of greetings cards from The Studio in Mousehole. A couple are signed and most seem to be very similar ages apart from one which I guess is early and from when the The Studio started up.
All are handprinted and many are also labelled in pencil - for example King Arthur or Maggie Fisher - Cornish Witch
Cant find any other examples online although the artwork looks very similar to finished works.
Anyone shed any more light on these before I decide what to do with them as seems a shame to have them in a drawer? Are they rare and would they be of interest to collectors?
Personally, I love them and would hate them to get split up and remounted.
Thanks
(sorry cant post a link as Only just registered but have the images on a gallery if anyone wants to see)
Inherited some pieces and also came across a collection of greetings cards from The Studio in Mousehole. A couple are signed and most seem to be very similar ages apart from one which I guess is early and from when the The Studio started up.
All are handprinted and many are also labelled in pencil - for example King Arthur or Maggie Fisher - Cornish Witch
Cant find any other examples online although the artwork looks very similar to finished works.
Anyone shed any more light on these before I decide what to do with them as seems a shame to have them in a drawer? Are they rare and would they be of interest to collectors?
Personally, I love them and would hate them to get split up and remounted.
Thanks
(sorry cant post a link as Only just registered but have the images on a gallery if anyone wants to see)
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I've now managed to get my own William Fisher self portrait
As well as some other of his works of art and 'lithographs'/prints. I believe most if not all of the prints probably date to the early 60's when we know they did sell small prints as gift cards. But I have no evidence for this - except that I've not come across any later printed images being sold and several of them are related to some of the popular early designs used on the pottery. But I wonder if they sold prints first, before they were added to the pottery items or if sold alongside when certain images seemed popular?? I guess we'll never know.
All came from the estate of the late Nigel Hallard, another Mousehole artist who was friends with Bill & Maggie.
Some of the art and prints are signed, but many are not.
No date for this Self Portrait, but it's clearly a later one.
Oil on Board. When I first got it I wondered if it was oil paint. But it is reflective and seem to be a fine very thin Oil paint.
I'll add a few other images separately below and more over time.
As well as some other of his works of art and 'lithographs'/prints. I believe most if not all of the prints probably date to the early 60's when we know they did sell small prints as gift cards. But I have no evidence for this - except that I've not come across any later printed images being sold and several of them are related to some of the popular early designs used on the pottery. But I wonder if they sold prints first, before they were added to the pottery items or if sold alongside when certain images seemed popular?? I guess we'll never know.
All came from the estate of the late Nigel Hallard, another Mousehole artist who was friends with Bill & Maggie.
Some of the art and prints are signed, but many are not.
No date for this Self Portrait, but it's clearly a later one.
Oil on Board. When I first got it I wondered if it was oil paint. But it is reflective and seem to be a fine very thin Oil paint.
I'll add a few other images separately below and more over time.
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Two small 'scratched' artworks. Neither is signed but came from the large collection where several were.
The bird is very clearly Bill's work. But I did wonder about the monkey/baboon.
But after I got them, it is very clear that they both came from the very same Scrapper Board - so no doubts about it's origin. I knew Bill could do some fine work as is seen in places in much of his art - but this really is amazingly detailed and fine.
The bird is very clearly Bill's work. But I did wonder about the monkey/baboon.
But after I got them, it is very clear that they both came from the very same Scrapper Board - so no doubts about it's origin. I knew Bill could do some fine work as is seen in places in much of his art - but this really is amazingly detailed and fine.
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Next a Wonderful large dragon print - this has a goldish finish which makes it very reflective, so it really needs to be seen in a darkish area. It's leaning against that self portrait frame for an idea of size (narrower, but taller).
Next a painted boat image, which I'm sure you all recognise from the Celtic Pottery. This is almost certainly done early during the Mousehole days. I have some prints which are very slightly different and face the other way. I wonder if this was an original that was used by those decorating the pottery in the early days?
Next a painted boat image, which I'm sure you all recognise from the Celtic Pottery. This is almost certainly done early during the Mousehole days. I have some prints which are very slightly different and face the other way. I wonder if this was an original that was used by those decorating the pottery in the early days?
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Last for now. A wonderful large King print. It hasn't all printed perfectly but still very nice. You'll notice there is a Lion behind his legs and a Eagle behind his head. As well as what looks to me like 3 lions on the shield (only head of lowest one).
Anyone know if there is a King that is connected to an Eagle and a Lion?
Anyone know if there is a King that is connected to an Eagle and a Lion?
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Questions:
What was the total archive - how many? How much else is out there?
Never heard of scraper board before, it is like the crayon then smoke soot we did as kids, where you scrape off the black to reveal the undercoat?
They would look better sympathetically framed, don't cut the king down. If you get them on the wall do post a photo. A frame might aslo protect them.
Nice things - jealous
What was the total archive - how many? How much else is out there?
Never heard of scraper board before, it is like the crayon then smoke soot we did as kids, where you scrape off the black to reveal the undercoat?
They would look better sympathetically framed, don't cut the king down. If you get them on the wall do post a photo. A frame might aslo protect them.
Nice things - jealous
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Crawford - Unframed 'lithographs' there are 10 different images (some have copies), these 2 'scratch cards', this 1 boat painting, 2 pen and Ink drawings a 1 'sketch'. Separately I bought 2 framed paintings (but there were 5 other paintings for sale). Painting there should be loads out there. But yeh, who knows how many different lithographs designs were produced??? Like everything, we'll slowly find out as they surface.
Yep I intend to get frames for them and keep the lithograph sheets as large as possible. Each one is clearly hand printed as there are subtle difference in how heavy the ink is or isn't and excess ink, between the copies. And the signed ones all have slightly differently placed signatures - so individually hand signed.
Here is a close up of the back of the scraper board, explaining their use. I do have a vague memory of having something similar as a kid (probably at Primary school - I wasn't very good!)
Yep I intend to get frames for them and keep the lithograph sheets as large as possible. Each one is clearly hand printed as there are subtle difference in how heavy the ink is or isn't and excess ink, between the copies. And the signed ones all have slightly differently placed signatures - so individually hand signed.
Here is a close up of the back of the scraper board, explaining their use. I do have a vague memory of having something similar as a kid (probably at Primary school - I wasn't very good!)
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Ahh so you ink it yourself? Back then everyone had ink and used ink - biro was a new invention!
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CF - one thing the three lions always face to the left. Always if it's england. England that is. meaning if you mirror that print it looks better
That would also make his right had his sword arm. I think it's reversed. Is it right or left handed on the king ceramics?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_England
That would also make his right had his sword arm. I think it's reversed. Is it right or left handed on the king ceramics?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_England
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Not sure off hand, I'd have to check photo's, to see if I can find a full image - I don't actually have a king yet. But Dan does.
But 11 years ago, Big Ed made an observation which may be relevant
But 11 years ago, Big Ed made an observation which may be relevant
big ed wrote:, it would appear that Bill was left handed , just a little thing of mine when I look at drawings and paintings
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Another Pen & Ink 'wacky' one.
I think this may be a heavily worked dragon.
There is definitely head with 2 eyes and a long jaw. Towards the lower sides and lower bottom are 'feet' with 3 toes & claws (bill did 3 toed dragons).
Signed about 1 inch above the 11inch mark on ruler.
Finally for now a nude sketch.
I think this may be a heavily worked dragon.
There is definitely head with 2 eyes and a long jaw. Towards the lower sides and lower bottom are 'feet' with 3 toes & claws (bill did 3 toed dragons).
Signed about 1 inch above the 11inch mark on ruler.
Finally for now a nude sketch.
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Another original art work.
Described as mixed media on velvet. Image size is 11inch x 15inch
There a little reflection from the glass, but not much.
This is now hanging in my living room above my comp desk, where there was a perfect sized space up at ceiling level. The frame is too pale for my taste (although not quite as pink as it looks here), so at some point I'll stain or paint it a dark brown/Walnut. I'm also going to take it out the frame and see how much more image is hiding behind the mount and possible even a signature? I did find one on one of the original pen & ink's starting this thread. So the image size may increase.
Described as mixed media on velvet. Image size is 11inch x 15inch
There a little reflection from the glass, but not much.
This is now hanging in my living room above my comp desk, where there was a perfect sized space up at ceiling level. The frame is too pale for my taste (although not quite as pink as it looks here), so at some point I'll stain or paint it a dark brown/Walnut. I'm also going to take it out the frame and see how much more image is hiding behind the mount and possible even a signature? I did find one on one of the original pen & ink's starting this thread. So the image size may increase.
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Just a quick update of info.
Looking back over some old emails from people. I'd forgotten that Bill wasn't just friends with Nigel Hallard. He was actually based in Nigel's studio in Mousehole for a while. This would explain why Nigel had so much of Bill's work and prints. I'm not sure when he left, but the Forms And Faces booklet shows him being based there, which was published in 1986.
Looking back over some old emails from people. I'd forgotten that Bill wasn't just friends with Nigel Hallard. He was actually based in Nigel's studio in Mousehole for a while. This would explain why Nigel had so much of Bill's work and prints. I'm not sure when he left, but the Forms And Faces booklet shows him being based there, which was published in 1986.
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They are not on the wall yet, but I have now managed to frame a few.22 Crawford St. wrote:Questions:
They would look better sympathetically framed, don't cut the king down. If you get them on the wall do post a photo. A frame might aslo protect them.
I doing them myself. Just buying cheap f&g pictures from a local auction, when the size is about right and I like(ish) the frame. Some mounts I've enlarged the opening and the pen & ink I've cut the mount myself. The 'scratch cards' are stuck onto a mount, as I didn't want to loose the edges behind a mount.
I've also been looking at the printing. Some seem that they may have been professionally done, whilst others are clearly hand done ( some sort of 'block' printing, as they have very heavy amounts of ink on the paper which you can actually feel the thickness of ink.)
Some you've seen unframed first.
The eyes on this 'baboon' really do follow you - it's just so good!
And now one you've not seen.
These mask prints are the heaviest printed. I've put 2 side by side in this frame as one has areas of print that the other doesn't. I don't think they are just 'unprinted' in the left hand one, it just seems that extra areas were block printed on the right one. The images are slightly wider at the top than the bottom and not exactly symmetrical, which is why they 'may' look slightly wonky - but they are as upright as it's possible to get them.
I like the fact they are so similar yet different. Makes a good a SPOT THE DIFFERENCE.
With most of the images, the printing is visible on the reverse of the paper and looks almost waxy - as with the back of a mask print.
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