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Post by Josordoni March 18th 2010, 11:54 am

Can anyone help with Sylvac colours?  My Sylvac book doesn't seem to go into any detail about the colours and their respective rarity.  I have a huge collection of Sylvac bunnies that I am selling now, and I am really not sure how to describe the colours.

For example:

This rabbit:

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Turq_m10

Is it turquoise? Is it blue?

I have seen darker glossy Royal blue described as just blue, so would describing this as blue cause a confusion?

And is there white as well as cream?

I think this is is cream?

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). White_10

Any help gratefully received,  with thanks in advance,


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Post by Josordoni March 18th 2010, 1:06 pm

colour corrected the blue one a bit.. this is more like the colour on my monitor.

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Turq_m11
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Post by Tigerchips Meowseum March 19th 2010, 7:01 pm

I'm still trying to figure out the difference between Wade, SylvaC ,and Price Bros rabbits, lol.

All i know is....

SylvaC matte rabbits:
green
fawn
blue
pink

SylvaC glossy rabbits:
burnt orange
mustard
purple

Price Brother rabbits:
Matt green
blue
fawn
oatmeal (hmmmm yummy)

Wade rabbits:
light brown
light green
orange
brown
green
turquoise
blue

...and that was probably looking in the same books that you have. albino
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Post by Josordoni March 19th 2010, 7:32 pm

Hi Tony,

I know I have currently got Yellow and Cream/White definitely Sylvac to add to your list. I have had chocolate and the early cellulose ones came in down right weird colours, I had a white one with bright pink eyes....
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Post by Adam20 July 1st 2011, 11:24 pm

Sylvac Face Pots

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Img_1241

Sylvac Onion pot - remains of label - shape 516 marked to base

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Img_1242

Sylvac Chutney Pot - shape 4753 marked to base

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Post by Adam20 July 24th 2011, 6:40 pm

Some more Sylvac from my collection - note that many early moulds were also used for Falcon Ware - I own the top piece as such as well as in Sylvac

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Sylvac10

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Rabbit10

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Sylvac11

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Sylvac12
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Post by NaomiM June 3rd 2012, 5:53 pm

Found this at Wokingham fair. The dealer wasn't sure about it, so took a couple of pictures for posterity.

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Dscn9817

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Dscn9818

This website has something similar (albeit smaller): http://www.stylendesign.co.uk/modern/G859.html
They say this, about their two vases.

SylvaC pottery vases 4693 based on Winged Bull design from Persia, Mesopotamia, Assyria. The Louvre in Paris has a very similar design of a winged bull from Susa in Persia from around 500BC. It takes the form of glazed tiles on a wall to create the picture of the bull. Now we have a more modern version of the bull design. The vases are very appealing and colourful. There has been quite an effort to paint these by hand. There is a bull front and back on each vase. It is good to have the two in the different colourways, and we think these are quite unusual.


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Post by jojojosie20 April 18th 2013, 1:23 pm

Be careful with the animals there are a large number of fakes around.

Bought this little fellow in a charity warehouse in Brussels wasn't sure if he was real or not as couldn't get on the internet.

However for € 1 i thought he was worth a punt Big Laughter .

Looked familiar but pottery isn't my specialist area. Markings are 106 A england


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Post by brin mcardle May 12th 2013, 6:25 pm

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Copied24

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Copied25

The label starts Sy.. and looks to say Made in England ?? Any help much appreciated
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Post by Eclectic-Dorset May 12th 2013, 6:32 pm

Sylvac !
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Post by brin mcardle May 12th 2013, 6:34 pm

I thought so...and you and Potty have confirmed. I've never seen one like this..??
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Post by Potty May 12th 2013, 6:45 pm

They are one of the more common animal models to be honest, it will also have usual impressed marks, but they are often very hard to make up on pieces with this black glaze.

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Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Copied81

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Post by Potty June 18th 2013, 5:31 pm

SylvaC

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Post by brin mcardle June 18th 2013, 6:27 pm

How old do you think ?
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Post by Potty June 18th 2013, 6:37 pm

I'd guess 50's roughly.

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Post by brin mcardle June 18th 2013, 6:51 pm

Thank you sir
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Post by Potty June 18th 2013, 7:08 pm

At ease captain Most Excellent

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Post by NaomiM June 25th 2013, 11:12 pm

jojojosie20 wrote:Be careful with the animals there are a large number of fakes around.

Bought this little fellow in a charity warehouse in Brussels wasn't sure if he was real or not as couldn't get on the internet.

However for € 1 i thought he was worth a punt  Big Laughter .

Looked familiar but pottery isn't my specialist area. Markings are 106 A england


Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Bunny10

Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Bunny110

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I think the number is 1067. (106 is a mouse on the Sylvac moulds list).


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Post by NaomiM June 25th 2013, 11:15 pm

Found a useful list of SylvaC mould numbers (0-3500) and their corresponding shapes. 
Also includes a page of fakes.


http://sylvac.priceguide.s5.com/custom.html

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Post by Susi October 6th 2013, 5:40 pm

Please help me identify who the maker of this pitcher.  It stands about 6 1/2 inches tall and about 5 inches at the widest part.  It has embossed marks on the bottom, reading "1580" and "Made in England."  I am having some problems loading the second photo showing the marks....  So, perhaps in a second post this site will let me insert the second photograph.

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Post by Susi October 6th 2013, 5:41 pm

Okay, here is the second photograph, showing the embossed marks on the bottom.
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Post by NaomiM August 10th 2015, 12:46 am

Sylvac vase. Thought it was West German when I saw it.
No. 3879 I think.


Sylvac / Shaw & Copestake (Longton). Image385


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Post by ev January 30th 2016, 6:36 am

Hi there, I don't see any Keith Murray base markings.  Did he number his work?  Where can I go to find out about this please?

Please take a look at this piece and give your honest opinions.  Cheers Ev


http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7201-a-crown-lynn-puzzler-from-a-private-collector#28533



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Post by denbydump January 30th 2016, 8:23 am

I think it could be 1930s Poole pottery
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