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Post by flying free on March 24th 2010, 10:06 pm

lamp base - all in good working order, gorgeous glaze and colour/decoration
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Post by flying free on March 24th 2010, 10:07 pm

and 13"tall by about 8 1/2" wide
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Post by Tigerchips Meowseum on March 25th 2010, 6:47 pm

I'm guessing it's not easy coming by pieces for this pottery company as it only lasted 3-4 years. I think some of the Poole Designers worked for this company that was based in Blackpool.

But i did manage to pick up this...


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Re: Pilkington's Royal Lancastrian Pottery

Post by flying free on March 25th 2010, 7:17 pm

I have not much info on this at all, but I assumed it wasn't linnked with Royal Lancastrian or Pilkington's Lancastrian, however, having gone on their site after you posted, there is a very brief mention of the company's comings and goings and if I recall it mentions a last, implied short-lived, attempt in 1972. So might this be the output of that last attempt - or is it a completely different pottery?
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Post by studio-pots on February 19th 2011, 1:05 pm

They are from the Pilkington Royal Lancastrian company and part of their last attempt at pottery, as opposed to tiles. Pilkington's finally went into liquidation in June last year.

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Post by flying free on February 21st 2011, 7:54 pm

thank you so much for the information. Sorry I have only just seen your post. Can you tell what year the lamp base may date to please? I'm interested to know for reference, but also because I come from up North and this is exactly the kind of thing my grandma had in her very funky 70's terrace.
Many thanks for any further info you can shed on this.
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Post by studio-pots on February 21st 2011, 9:49 pm

The dates of the "final flurry" vary in different references but I think that the dates of 1972 to 1975 are likely to be the most accurate.

In one of the other posts there is a mention of some Poole designers being involved. This is true in that some of the unglazed wares seem to have been made by Poole at their pottery and shipped north to be glazed and finished.

That happened quite alot throughout the history of pottery production in the UK and surprisingly there are a few young "studio potters" today, who can't throw and buy in thrown pots from places, such as the Aylesford Pottery, before decorating and passing them off as completely their own work.

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Post by studio-pots on September 28th 2014, 6:50 pm

I understand that Pilkingtons merged with Poole Pottery at the end of 1964 and it was after the Thomas Tilling Group took over the whole concern in 1971 that this attempt at establishing a factory in or near Blackpool occurred.

An ashtray from this period.



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Post by denbydump on September 30th 2014, 10:50 pm

Yes, they definitely did use Poole Delphis shape blanks.
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Post by denbydump on December 24th 2014, 3:27 pm

Some Pilkington's Lancastrian art pottery pieces.
All "Bee" mark 1904-1914.





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Re: Pilkington's Royal Lancastrian Pottery

Post by cycladelic on May 10th 2016, 6:25 am

This small - 11cm - vase was decorated by William S Mycock and has the mark with 'Made in England' that was used after 1920, but I wonder which year it was actually made. The number of the vase is 2568.
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Post by studio-pots on May 10th 2016, 9:10 am

The number is the shape number, which is only going to tell you when the shape was first used, if you had a list of that information. Mycock (the S. is for Salter) stayed at Pilkington's until 1938 so that doesn't narrow it down.

I think earlier pieces has a date code but have a feeling that later pieces didn't - it's been decades since I dealt in this stuff!

When the sun comes up an image of the mark might reveal something.

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Post by cycladelic on May 10th 2016, 11:21 am

Cheers, SP - here's a snap of the base. Any idea what the three lines mean on the right?

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Post by denbydump on May 10th 2016, 12:23 pm

It could well be the thrower's mark.
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Post by studio-pots on May 11th 2016, 9:05 am

I'm wondering if Mycock threw this vase, as his mark is impressed and I believe he did throw, and the other line mark is a date code?

On earlier pieces the date code was in Roman numerals under the seal mark and, although this wasn't continued on this later mark, some of the senior staff members might have continued the process in their own way.

I don't have the book on Royal Lancastrian by Cross that would be useful.

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Post by denbydump on May 11th 2016, 11:41 am

That could be right SP, as thinking about it, the decorator's mark is
usually printed, over the glaze.
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Post by cycladelic on May 11th 2016, 3:12 pm

We just need someone with that book...
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Re: Pilkington's Royal Lancastrian Pottery

Post by DAVID24/5 on May 23rd 2016, 7:08 pm

Can anyone put an accurate date on this slightly Ruskin-like streaky glazed Royal Lancastrian vase. Edward Thomas Radford mark. Numbered 3185. The lack of 'Made in' suggests it may date from before 1920?




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Re: Pilkington's Royal Lancastrian Pottery

Post by denbydump on May 23rd 2016, 7:41 pm

Yes Dave, looks like 1914-1920, but assuming potteries didn't make
decorative wares during WW1, more likely to be 1918-20.
Nice colours!

BTW Radford was the thrower.
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Post by DAVID24/5 on May 23rd 2016, 8:45 pm

Thanks Jerry. Might keep this one, takes my RL collection to 2! All the best.
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Royal Lancastrian Bee mark vase

Post by Johners2000 on March 16th 2017, 6:12 pm

I'm pretty sure this vase is 1904-14 as it has the B mark on the base.

Sadly the marks are not very clear due to the glaze.

I wonder if anyone can give me any more information - maker, shape number - anything really.




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Post by denbydump on June 5th 2018, 1:15 pm

Yes Bee mark, shape looks like 277, the date is in Roman numerals. I can see X
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Post by denbydump on June 5th 2018, 1:18 pm

A giant 10 in high vase c 1918-20, still doing some drippy glazes after WW1.




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Pilkingtons Royal Lancastrian Pottery bowl

Post by ksavv on June 12th 2018, 5:58 pm

This is a deep footed carved art pottery bowl with central decoration depicting a fragment of the Manchester coat of arms (crest).
The golden bends in red are derived from the arms of the Lords of Manchester, who ruled the city prior to 1301. The chief shows a ship in full sail, a symbol of trade and enterprise.
The PL which stands for Pilkington’s Royal Lancastrian pottery can be seen marked at the base of the bowl. There is also an image of a ship at the base.
There is another mark to base - the incised monogram for WSM - William S. Mycock
I have dated the item circa early 20th century
Slight discolouration in places on the decorated panel.

Dimensions : approx 16 cm in diameter, height approx 7 cm

Any help would be greatly appreciated!





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Re: Pilkington's Royal Lancastrian Pottery

Post by NaomiM on June 12th 2018, 6:08 pm

Check completed listings on auction house sales, for an idea of value. But that can only give you a range, which depends on size, condition, and how pretty the item is.
And value would depend on whether and how you planned to sell it. If you have your own stall and want a set price then you’d have to go on past sales prices at auction. If you’re unsure then it’s best to sell via a reputable auction house, and let it find its own value. At the end of the day you can ask as much as you like for it, but that doesn’t mean collectors would be prepared to pay it.

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