YL or VL mark, Europe? Italy? Spain?

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Post by Simon Foster March 8th 2024, 9:28 am

Hello
Can anyone identify this mark, on the underside of a 44cm diameter dish?
Many thanks
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Post by NaomiM March 9th 2024, 8:18 pm

Is the decoration hand drawn? I'm wondering if it's 18thC Dutch or English Delftware

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Post by Simon Foster March 10th 2024, 8:58 am

Hi Naomi, thank you so much for posting. I know nothing about ceramics, so it's difficult for me to tell whether it is hand drawn. It's irregular, and blurry, and has some flaws, smudges, but this could equally be from hastily applied stencilling?? I can't see any raised 'paint' like one might do on an oil painting, but maybe this doesn't happen on ceramics?
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Post by Simon Foster March 10th 2024, 9:00 am

Here are some more close up shots...YL or VL mark, Europe? Italy? Spain?  Img_5216
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Post by Simon Foster March 10th 2024, 9:01 am

Sorry, maybe too many shots, but here are a couple more...YL or VL mark, Europe? Italy? Spain?  Img_5220
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Post by NaomiM March 10th 2024, 12:21 pm

I think it’s transfer ware. Possibly late 19thC European; maybe Spanish

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Post by Simon Foster March 10th 2024, 6:25 pm

Thank you so much Naomi. Know any 19thC Spanish specialists? :-)
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Post by NaomiM March 10th 2024, 8:28 pm

There are lot of pottery groups on Facebook but I don’t know if there’s one for Spanish pottery

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Post by Simon Foster March 11th 2024, 9:04 am

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Post by hercules brabazon March 11th 2024, 10:57 am

That broken kind of effect on the decoration makes me think it might be largely stencilled (with some additions by hand) rather than printed.
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Post by Simon Foster March 11th 2024, 11:20 am

Thank you Hercules.
I have emailed a (random) ceramics dealer in London to see what they know, and may take it in to them so they can see it in the flesh
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