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Post by potterymad62 March 4th 2024, 8:17 pm

Stab in the dark, could this be an early Ray Finch pot. The decoration & glaze looks similar, again just a punt here.

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Post by NaomiM March 4th 2024, 8:51 pm

Ray Finch was running Winchcombe Pottery by then. Looks like a student piece

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Post by Pugmill March 6th 2024, 2:19 pm

Could it be a test piece of Ray.

Wikipedia extract below.

Finch was interested in stoneware, and in 1952 he started experimenting with the more difficult clay. The experiments were eventually successful and in 1954 the bottle kiln was fired for the last time, since it was too large and unsuitable for stoneware.
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Post by potterymad62 March 6th 2024, 2:31 pm

NaomiM wrote:Ray Finch was running Winchcombe Pottery by then. Looks like a student piece
Yes my thoughts to possibly a student piece, like I said just a punt really and as Pugmill said it could be a Finch early test piece Shrugs
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Post by potterymad62 March 6th 2024, 2:38 pm

Pugmill wrote:Could it be a test piece of Ray.

Wikipedia extract below.

Finch was interested in stoneware, and in 1952 he started experimenting with the more difficult clay. The experiments were eventually successful and in 1954 the bottle kiln was fired for the last time, since it was too large and unsuitable for stoneware.

Thanks for the info Pugmill, very interesting thought and as you say a possibility. Like I said in my earlier post, just a punt really Excellent
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Post by Pugmill March 6th 2024, 3:13 pm

I don't think it would be a student piece. I think it is a test piece by Ray himself. The number 3 written on the base in what appears to be the same glaze as on the body also points to it being a test piece. An interesting vase/pot.
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Post by philpot March 6th 2024, 4:18 pm

Another possibilty. Joe Finch and Trudi Finch spent several long periods in the 1970's establishing the Kolonyama Pottery i Lesotho. They first went out there in 1969/70, and also in 1975 and 1978. Ray Finch was there is 1970/71,
Could this piece be from there? Kolonyama pottery was established from scratch, So there would have been a lot of misfirings. A souvenir?
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Post by Pugmill March 6th 2024, 4:32 pm

It's dated 1953
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Post by studio-pots March 6th 2024, 5:48 pm

Pugmill wrote:It's dated 1953
when they were using red earthenware at Winchcombe. In 1953 Winchcombe had "disastrous problems" with their bottle kiln and so it was all hands trying to produce the standard "Stock" lines to meet demand, including Ray.

Stoneware was not used at Winchcombe until 1959/60.


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Post by Pugmill March 6th 2024, 5:51 pm

And started experimenting with stoneware in 1952, as mentioned above.
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Post by studio-pots March 6th 2024, 6:08 pm

Pugmill wrote:And started experimenting with stoneware in 1952, as mentioned above.

There is no indication in any of the reliable sources of information about Ray Finch that the Wiki entry is correct. I can find information that he thought about using stoneware in the late 1940s but it wasn't until 1959 that it was used and not until 1964 that earthenware was finally phased out. In 1952/3 the pottery was losing around 50% of their pots during firing, which led to redundancies and only Sid Tustin, Don Jones and Ray at the pottery.

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Post by NaomiM March 6th 2024, 6:53 pm

At the end of the day you'd have to convince collectors that this is a test piece by Ray Finch and they're going to wonder why he didn't simply use his stamp

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Post by philpot March 6th 2024, 7:13 pm

Pugmill wrote:It's dated 1953

That is what you read it as of course. It could mean other things.
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