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Post by Wynyardr August 13th 2023, 7:20 pm

I've had this little pot for a couple of years, was told that it was made by Warren Mackenzie. From my research, this checks out. Does anything seem unlikely about the attribution to Warren Mackenzie? Unmarked.

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Post by Pugmill August 13th 2023, 7:44 pm

It's difficult to say, as many potters make facetted pots. If you can find some other pieces of his in this oatmeal type glaze, then that might narrow it down.
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Post by NaomiM August 13th 2023, 10:13 pm

I think it’s unlikely to be by Mackenzie

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Post by studio-pots August 14th 2023, 12:32 am

Who told you that it was made by Warren Mackenzie and what reasons did they give?

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Post by NaomiM August 14th 2023, 12:59 am

Unmarked Warren Mackenzie pots are difficult to ID unless you can find another pot online that matches the shape, clay and glaze. Even avid collectors argue over an ID of his work if it's not one of his iconic forms.

I don’t know if he identifies pots for strangers but Steve Basile of Curated Ceramics is worth asking¬†

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Post by philpot August 14th 2023, 7:49 am

Warren Mackenzie pots are very rare in the UK. His connection with the UK being that he was an apprentice at the Leach St Ives Pottery.But it really would be very unusual for this pot to be his.
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Post by studio-pots August 14th 2023, 7:22 pm

philpot wrote:Warren Mackenzie pots are very rare in the  UK. His connection with the UK being that he was an apprentice at the Leach St Ives Pottery.But it really would be very unusual for this pot to be his.

He did have a pottery in 1963 briefly at Dartington, philpot, but of the two pots that I have seen from there, both have been marked and had iron glazes (browns).

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Post by NaomiM August 14th 2023, 8:53 pm

He’s potted on sabbatical at the Leach Pottery St Ives several times during his lifetime and probably stocked in U.K. galleries, so it turns up here every so often, but provenance is important on the unmarked pieces

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Post by Wynyardr August 15th 2023, 8:30 pm

Hi
Thanks for the replies.
I don't have too much to offer in way of provenance unfortunately. Bought from a gentleman in North of England who was "downsizing" his very large and mixed collection (from memory he had some Linthorpe Pottery, Empoli glass, West German, Winchcombe and many more). This piece had a handwritten sticker "W Mackenzie" on the base, so either he was sold it as such or determined from his own research. Admittedly, I didn't know enough about Warren Mackenzie at the time to question him further, it wasn't cheap but it wasn't Warren Mackenzie prices either!

Looking further, I don't think the neat scalloped glaze is reflective of Warren's work, but should help with identification.


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Post by studio-pots August 16th 2023, 12:30 pm

Now that you have told me why to believed it to be by Warren Mackenzie, my advice to you and anyone else is that you should never ever buy anything like this in the future, even if from a dealer, without having some knowledge and being convinced yourself.

As a dealer myself, if this had come my way in a job lot then it would have gone into my "bargain bin" for a couple of quid at most.

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Post by Wynyardr August 16th 2023, 7:56 pm

I would still buy it again, I've enjoyed having it on a shelf for a couple of years, and I still love it regardless of who made it. I am not a label snob in that sense. It was only when I decided to look it up I got a bit of a shock 😅

Warren Mackenzie seemed like a lovely man with good morals, and the amount of research I have done this week I feel I would spot his work a mile off now, although that will probably never happen in my lifetime. Instead I will hope to find more that are similar in the bargain bin for a couple of quid!
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