Help with ID please -Wardle, Swansea Ware

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Post by monksend Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:16 pm

Hi.  

I have this vase which I think is 1930s but I know absolutely nothing about it my guess is that it could be Myatts but that’s just a guess.  If anyone could ID it for me I would be very grateful

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Post by denbydump Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:48 pm

You're problably thinking of Myott, rather than Myatt, who did more art type pottery.

The Rd No is for 1933, Classic probably refers to the pattern name,
however it could be by one of any number of potteries, probably Staffordshire.
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Post by monksend Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:11 pm

Thank you
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Post by PhilosophiaSB Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:02 am

decor is very similar to this ones
https://www.hemswell-antiques.com/antiques/antique-ceramics/swansea-ware-frederick-rhead-flora-jug-94587.html

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/swansea-ware-wardle-tubelined-classic-512287489
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Post by monksend Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:07 pm

Thank you very much. I think you are exactly right! I have been searching for information on this jug without any luck for a long time. Thank you again
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Post by denbydump Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:11 pm

Well we have a pottery, Wardle art pottery (Staffordshire).
However there is a little more research to be done yet.

This piece does not appear to be tube-lined, just hand-painted and gilded.
The Rhead family severed their connection with Wardle in 1902.
This piece was registered in 1933, so obstensibly no obvious Rhead connection.
Cauldon pottery acquired Wardle in 1925, and continued to use their designs.

The white base with dark blue marks is more typical of Cauldon manufacture.


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Post by denbydump Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:31 pm

The two links above by PhilosophiaSB have conflicting info, and only one with a mark.

The pattern matches the "FLORA" on the marked piece.
The pattern on the other is different, but the shape is the same, so the Rd No is
probably for the shape "CLASSIC"?
"SWANSEA WARE" may have been an earlier range on more traditional shapes
maybe 1920s? that used the same "FLORA" decoration.
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Post by denbydump Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:31 pm

Further reading on Frederick Rhead says he joined Cauldon pottery in 1929,
Which would have been after it had already acquired Wardle, but became seriously
ill and died in 1933.
I suspect any link to Rhead being the designer, is going to be rather tenuous at best.
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