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Post by NaomiM June 7th 2022, 12:26 am

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Post by PotteryMaim August 27th 2022, 6:22 am

It looks like an R. T. Stuart, in that it has a seascape with a tiny lone figure in the middle distance, with some aspect of not belonging in the scene. Maybe their dress or their actions or just a stance. And the brushstrokes aren't particularly un-alike. I mean, that very wind-tossed water and the boat's looking very tippy-- but the figure is standing ramrod straight, looking out to sea, wearing a derby and possibly holding a walking stick.
Is it possible this artist is RT Stuart, (19th century, but) maybe a 20th century art student/fan?
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Post by NaomiM August 27th 2022, 10:19 am

Cheers. Lovely work but unfortunately not signed Stuart

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Post by denbydump August 27th 2022, 1:55 pm

They look like Thames sailing barges, or the North East sea-going coal barges.
Penna is a NE name, but I suspect it's probably Penn.
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Post by PotteryMaim August 27th 2022, 7:28 pm

Oh, I do think it says "RT. PENN." -- a dot, not a tiny, blobby lower-case letter a--  because how would that be consistent with the other neat, block capital letters?
I also think it has at least a tributary connection to the works of Stuart, if not his actual work. Being a prolific painter, he was as subject to the needs and causes for using a pseudonym as anyone.
But, I admit that's not what you asked. So, yeah, I think that it says RT. PENN.
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Post by PotteryMaim August 29th 2022, 7:00 pm

On further reflection as to the nature of pen names/aliases/pseudonyms, and especially taking into account the subtle humor inherent in the works of RT Stuart-- 
If I owned this painting I would personally conclude this to be an RT Stuart painting signed with a punnish "pen" name, nudgenudge, winkwink, say no more-- RT Penn-- a pen name.
Alternatively it is a fake or a tribute by a punny student and the RT. PENN.- name nudgewink-- is all part of that. 
Given the way his figures are so oddly characterized, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Stuart was as obnoxious with puns as any Dad ever was.
Maybe it would be fun to review his paiting one-by-one and caption each figure with an appropriate pun.
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Post by NaomiM August 29th 2022, 7:44 pm

Unfortunately not as good as RT Stuart and unlikely to be 19thC. I think it’s mid to late 20thC. Probably a hobby painter.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. August 29th 2022, 8:32 pm

Always worth checking the level of dirt. Sherlock Holmes dust method.

Just use some white sprit on a clean white cotton sheet and gently clean a little of the top the frame (where you can't see from the front) - not the painting itself

There should be a lot of dirt on it if it's 19th century (smoke from fires and tobacco) and lot less if if it's 20th. Back looks c20 to me.
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Post by PotteryMaim August 29th 2022, 8:59 pm

Even the front look C. 20-- going by the grub test.
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