unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
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Lynnwoo- Number of posts : 4
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Yes, by Bernard Rooke, imo
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Thank you for your response, is there anywhere I can take it in order to get a positive authentication? This is all new to me! Kind regards
Lynnwoo- Number of posts : 4
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Lyn no. This is a very niche market. Normally you would look at this forum and the BR thread. Do a google image search and look for a similar one or watch ebay etc - which will give you a good idea of value also. There is a lot of this stuff about so there is always a chance it's not by BR. I would exhaust those routes first. Many many pieces of pottery are not marked and still unknown. Very frustrating at times.
Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
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I think it’s the ROOKE stamp on the side. I’m only hesitant because I haven’t found the same piece and his later pieces were moulded so there should be other examples. The alternative is Shelf Studio and Tremaen Pottery
http://www.tremaen.com/sculptural_bases/page_32.html
http://www.tremaen.com/sculptural_bases/page_32.html
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Our Forum is the best place, but also Adam Partridge Auctions specialise in studio pottery so worth contacting their consultant Jason Wood. At the end of the day you’re aiming for a consensus of opinion. If collectors say it is or isn’t by a certain potter then an Auction House’s attribution that says the opposite isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Thank you so much x
Lynnwoo- Number of posts : 4
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
I havent been able to find anything similar by Rooke, Shelf or Tremaen. I'm now wondering if it's Quantock Designs
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
I think it is definitely Rooke. If you look at the height of it in relation those bricks, it is 24 ins or more. Only Rooke did anything of that size. Also that decoration is very Rooke like. It may well be relatively early.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Thank you so much everyone for all of the responses.
Lynnwoo- Number of posts : 4
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Not finding anything by Rooke in that colour. The circle motif and the colour is more like Quantock.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
I agree with everything that Naomi says, except that an opinion from Jason Wood is worth getting. He has had an interest in studio pottery for less time than any of us on here that has that interest and his only experience before pitching to become the "studio ceramics consultant" at Adam Partridge's was being a less than successful eBay seller.
I know that it is always nice to know who made an item but with something like this I think who it is by is pretty irrelevant, as it is going to make little or no difference to its desirability.
I know that it is always nice to know who made an item but with something like this I think who it is by is pretty irrelevant, as it is going to make little or no difference to its desirability.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
I think who it is by is entirely relevant. The market for these large lamp bases - I am presuming it is large- is the Retro Design market. It is not the normal studio pottery collector's market. In that market the name ROOKE does a have a fair amount of cachet, because basically it is his name that is associated most with this type of piece. If it has a QUANTOCK impressed mark on it, it would just not have the same market. Indeed, most dealers in this type of object would assume it was Bernard Rooke as some of his work does not have a mark.
philpot- Number of posts : 6681
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
From my knowledge of the retro design market I stick by what I said above - it's all about the look and not about the maker. I guess it illustrates how opinions can differ.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
I suggested Wood because I believe he travels round doing appraisals and collecting items for the auctions. Better than posting it.
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NaomiM wrote:I suggested Wood because I believe he travels round doing appraisals and collecting items for the auctions. Better than posting it.
I see your point but I can't imagine that it would be viable for any auction house to do that for one item that might be equivalent to something that fetched £95 in their last sale.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
I agree with Studio. This type of lamp base is not really a studio pottery specialist item. Given it is not marked, and has not got all the bells and whistles of the really large Rooke pieces it will not be so popular. Most auctioneers will give a rough estimate based on a photo. You just need to choose an auctioneers in a wealthy town! Richard Wintertons in Lichfield in quite near to the Lady. Lichfield being quite a posh Cathedral town!
philpot- Number of posts : 6681
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
Jason Wood will have an itinerary so in the run up to an Auction he’ll say which areas he’s visiting and arrange to collect a number of entries for the auction. At least, he’s done that in the past. I’m just assuming he does that for every Studio Pottery auction.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
It is what other auctions do as well but in all cases it would need to be worth their while, as it would be for me when I am contacted in a similar manner.NaomiM wrote:Jason Wood will have an itinerary so in the run up to an Auction he’ll say which areas he’s visiting and arrange to collect a number of entries for the auction. At least, he’s done that in the past. I’m just assuming he does that for every Studio Pottery auction.
I suppose that if it was in an area that a consultant was specifically visiting and it was part of several house calls then he might take it; put it in an auction and call it was he likes. It doesn't help with identification though.
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Re: unmarked lamp base - Rooke? Tremaen? Quantock? Simonsbath?
It is marked. Rooke did use a mark like that.
It is slightly out of focus, if you could have another go, indoors, no flash, and lit by
daylight sideways, we might get a better idea.
It is slightly out of focus, if you could have another go, indoors, no flash, and lit by
daylight sideways, we might get a better idea.
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