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Post by studio-pots April 14th 2021, 5:18 pm

Asking for a friend. I have seen British pots marked in this way from the 1960s where the number has indicated that it was the 4th pot the potter had made in the year. It was found in London and so might not be British.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. April 14th 2021, 10:24 pm

SP for me the odd thing about this one that hits me immeatiatly are those x6 lattice scratch mark as decoration. They look like a tiger had a go at it, and he as not a happy tiger at the time. Not pleasing on the eye and just odd?, not seen before, uncomfortable.
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Post by NaomiM April 14th 2021, 10:28 pm

Student piece imo

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Post by philpot April 15th 2021, 9:13 am

The lines do look a bit superfluous. Fairly competent but nothing at all great. The sort of thing I would make a brief inspection of a a Boot Sale, and pass on.
The only incised JT mark I can think of is Janice Tchalenko. She lived in Dulwich. She would have been 19 in 1961 ideal for this being a student piece. Her early work was in the vaguely Leach/Cardew area. But it does not look like her signature tho.
But do you something more than we do Studio?
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Post by studio-pots April 15th 2021, 5:27 pm

This vase belongs to someone that I have known for probably 30 years and he's in the "rag trade" but collects art, design and pottery as a hobby. He lives in the Hampstead area of London and gets most of his pieces from local house clearance people he knows, who tend to offer him paintings and art object. Therefore it probably came from a "good" home. I can see why you all feel that it's a student piece/hobby potter and you could well be correct but to me it just seemed to be a little better than that. However, I am not saying that you are all wrong and I'm right.

I had ruled out Janice Tchalenko but I came across a name of a CPA member from the 1960s called John Turner but have been unable to find any examples of his work. Therefore, my query was to see if anyone knew anything about his work.

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Post by dantheman April 15th 2021, 5:54 pm

it looks to have been vandalised rather than decorated

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Post by NaomiM April 15th 2021, 5:57 pm

If it came from a good home then the previous owners might have been able to afford to take up pottery as a hobby.

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Post by studio-pots April 15th 2021, 6:01 pm

They could also have bought it for 50p in a charity shop but, knowing the area, it would more likey have been £3.

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Post by philpot April 15th 2021, 6:40 pm

Looking at an old CPA potters book. John and Kate Turner worked for several years with Louis Hannsen in his Hampstead studio. Then in Norfolk. However their mark illustrated in the book is a Lower Case t, entirely on its own.
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Post by benwilliams April 15th 2021, 6:48 pm

I like the shape and glazing. Can’t help with an ID tho’.
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