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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 1:54 pm

Could these a genunie staffordshire figurines from 19th century? Cow & calf figurines - Staffordshire? earthenware ? 20200811
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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 1:56 pm

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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 1:58 pm

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Post by studio-pots on August 7th 2020, 2:27 pm

It is more difficult to tell from images rather than handling them but to me they look to be recently made i.e late 20th century at best.

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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 2:49 pm

studio-pots wrote:It is more difficult to tell from images rather than handling them but to me they look to be recently made i.e late 20th century at best.


Here some close-up pics. It has some glass bursts and dead bubbels. The gold color looks not too shiny too.Cow & calf figurines - Staffordshire? earthenware ? 20200820
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Post by studio-pots on August 7th 2020, 5:21 pm

All of that can be faked to look old and from your photos that is what is suggested.

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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 6:10 pm

thank you Studio-pots. I agree, that the ageing signs could be faked.

I tested the glaze with a few drop of acetone. Acetone quickly removes the dark spray which the Chinese pieces have been sprayed it. it was'nt sprayed, it doenst came off. I examined the dark black crazing with 50X magnifiyer; it isnt over the entire surface; there are color differences, some area's are more dirty than others.
The holes are not too big and round and not identical to each other. It doens'nt like the mass production pieces but perhaps a repro?
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Post by NaomiM on August 7th 2020, 7:05 pm

I had a pair of sheep which were very similar, with the gold band around them. I was told they were made around the 70s and sold in museum shops, and were copies of original Staffordshire prices.
I think the likelihood of finding a pair of original Staffordshire pieces in such good condition, and looking that clean, is quite small.

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Post by NaomiM on August 7th 2020, 7:13 pm

Looking at similar ones on eBay they don’t sell for the same prices as original Staffordshire pieces, and the originals have concave bases with no hole.

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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 7:42 pm

In old ones you can find also firing holes or slip holes.

https://www.realorrepro.com/article/Staffordshire-Dogs
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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 7:43 pm

NaomiM wrote:I had a pair of sheep which were very similar, with the gold band around them. I was told they were made around the 70s and sold in museum shops, and were copies of original Staffordshire prices.
I think the likelihood of finding a pair of original Staffordshire pieces in such good condition, and looking that clean, is quite small.
yes, probably repro pieces
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Post by NaomiM on August 7th 2020, 9:03 pm

I can recommend Andrew Dando’s website for examples of original Staffordshire pieces

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Post by NaomiM on August 7th 2020, 9:06 pm

Your close up photos appear to show places where the surface enamel has been painted over the black lined crazing. That implies the crazing and black lining was a deliberate part of the manufacture of these pieces rather than a product of age.

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Post by aiko on August 7th 2020, 9:14 pm

Thank you Naomi! thats true !
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