Wallwork vase? - probably Sonia Sjoholm, Porthleven Pottery

The mark would be an incised W on work like this often difficult to see. How heavy is it? This type of 60's stuff can be quite lumpy. My vote would be for Wallwork. That type of decoration on the top is not something you see much of on a Rooke piece.

Images from the Greenwich years 1960-65.

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Wallwork almost invariably has a concave depression on the base, so a base photo is essential. We do have a couple of long threads on Wallwork and Rooke, so if there’s no mark then you’ll need to plough through them and highlight the pots that match the different elements in the decoration. Each handbuilt vase was unique but both potters did carry over their styles of decoration on a mix & match basis.

Just checked over my collection. Got one of a very similar shape. I would say definitely Wallwork

Thanks, here's a few more pics...



Weighs about 900 kg. Measures 7 inches high. It does indeed have a slight concave depression in the centre of the base.

Just to confuse things even more, there was a lady called Sally Shalam who worked as an assistant to Jon Cheney at Porthleven Pottery back in the 60s or 70s who made similar pieces.
Without an incised AW or W, I doubt it’s by Wallwork

the inside looks very unlike the Wallwork vases that I have seen

These two are the insides of slab built vases by Fern’s Porthleven Pottery. The technique looks very similar

I'm guessing TC's pot was made using a form of some kind which left those very uniformed impressions on the inside of the vase

Years ago I read somewhere that Alan Wallwork used coils of clay that were built up around on top of each other to make the vase. This would leave ring marks inside if they weren't smoothed out

Is there not an Lh mark anywhere for Louis Hudson pottery usually on the side

I would say its Wallwork because of the concave base

only one person could say for sure

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This is ours. Bought from the Devon Guild at Bovey Tracey Devon, which was a major outlet for Alan Wallwork

tigerchips wrote:

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JUST TO COMPARE

You have got to remember of course, that the W mark was not a personal Alan Wallwork imprimatur. Much as sellers on Ebay would like it to be. So basically the W means it could have been made by anyone who worked for Alan Wallwork at the time. In auctioneers terms the true description of a Wallwork with a W mark would be 'STUDIO of Alan Wallwork' and a description of this particular piece would be 'SCHOOL of Alan Wallwork'. Hence the discussion here.

philpot wrote:You have got to remember of course, that the W mark was not a personal Alan Wallwork imprimatur. Much as sellers on Ebay would like it to be. So basically the W means it could have been made by anyone who worked for Alan Wallwork at the time. In auctioneers terms the true description of a Wallwork with a W mark would be 'STUDIO of Alan Wallwork' and a description of this particular piece would be 'SCHOOL of Alan Wallwork'. Hence the discussion here.

Not sure that is absolutely correct. Back in the 1960s Alan worked in a very similar way to Hamada, although what they made wouldn't be confused.


What I mean by that is that Alan had assistants, who made the basic vessels and he would have made some too, depending on how busy he was. However, the decoration on them was done by Alan, the artistic bit if you like. So certainly a pot with a W is as much a pot by Alan Wallwork, as any Hamada pot is by Hamada and any old master painting is by the artist, who signed it.

Regarding the vase here, I wouldn't say with any confidence that it was made by Alan Wallwork. I did in the past have an unmarked vase that I thought could have been made by him but thought unlikely. However, when I showed it to Alan he told me he had made it, so I could be wrong but without Alan saying that it was his then there is always going to be a doubt.