selling really good pots
+3
NaomiM
philpot
dantheman
7 posters
Page 1 of 2
Page 1 of 2 • 1, 2
selling really good pots
Funny how many times I see the market value rise on a type of studio pot that I own and love, I always go through the same routine of writing an ebay description, working out a price that shows me a very healthy profit then out comes the magnifying glass to check for any minor damage.
Without exception this is when my money head disappears to be replaced by the pot head and I delete my unfinished listing
Without exception this is when my money head disappears to be replaced by the pot head and I delete my unfinished listing
_________________
'Edith Swan takes it up the Swanee and she loves it more than Christmas day.'
dantheman- Consultant
- Number of posts : 15458
Location : Lincolnshire ( the veg patch of England)
Registration date : 2008-02-03
Re: selling really good pots
Nothing is forever. Not even Love .
Have never got room to keep everything, so basically its a winnowing and changing of tastes. Those potters I have a few of, and probably would not buy any more. So Marianne De Trey, Roger Cockram, Svend Bayer I have divested myself of in the past year.
Tho I have collected some more. Mainly using the money to upcycle in quality.
Have never got room to keep everything, so basically its a winnowing and changing of tastes. Those potters I have a few of, and probably would not buy any more. So Marianne De Trey, Roger Cockram, Svend Bayer I have divested myself of in the past year.
Tho I have collected some more. Mainly using the money to upcycle in quality.
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
A lot of over priced ‘good pots’ on eBay.
_________________
Carrot cake is just fake cake
Re: selling really good pots
You really are a fickle pickle Naomi, for some people love does last forever
(I saw it on The Waltons)
(I saw it on The Waltons)
_________________
'Edith Swan takes it up the Swanee and she loves it more than Christmas day.'
dantheman- Consultant
- Number of posts : 15458
Location : Lincolnshire ( the veg patch of England)
Registration date : 2008-02-03
Re: selling really good pots
If there’s any damage then just box them up together and drop them off at a Studio Pottery sale at an auction house; preferably one that only takes one photo, has little or no description, and adds ‘ask for a condition report’ on the online listing in the hopes that no-one will bother and they don’t have to mention the damage
_________________
Carrot cake is just fake cake
Re: selling really good pots
Its the ' sell £1 or £3' special offers that Ebay are sending out that are attracting all the stupid pricing. Plus Free listings. Many people are taking an overpriced unrealistic punt in the hope that there are enough idiots out there to pay the overinflated prices. Which of course they won't.
There is a danger of entering rubbish into local sales. There is normally a 'lottage' or 'handling' charge of £10 or so. Plus seller's commission on the hammer price. Bought a lot the other day at £10. Nice David Walters large vase, couple of nice bits of glassware, and assorted odds and ends. The seller would have actually lost money.
There is a danger of entering rubbish into local sales. There is normally a 'lottage' or 'handling' charge of £10 or so. Plus seller's commission on the hammer price. Bought a lot the other day at £10. Nice David Walters large vase, couple of nice bits of glassware, and assorted odds and ends. The seller would have actually lost money.
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
Dan m'dear.
' Naomi, for some people love does last forever
(I saw it on The Waltons)'
So, is this an excuse for your hoarding?
And of course in reality. Nothing lasts forever. Apart from shards of pottery!
What was The Waltons?
' Naomi, for some people love does last forever
(I saw it on The Waltons)'
So, is this an excuse for your hoarding?
And of course in reality. Nothing lasts forever. Apart from shards of pottery!
What was The Waltons?
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
I love ebay being full of stuff that is massively overpriced as when I am selling similar at an antique fair it makes my prices look like bargains and I can genuinely point out that they'll pay far more on ebay.
I do wonder about the mentality of some sellers who have pieces on for month after month which will never sell.
I do wonder about the mentality of some sellers who have pieces on for month after month which will never sell.
ppcollectables- Number of posts : 421
Location : surrey/hants border
Registration date : 2009-05-31
Re: selling really good pots
but then completed listings sometimes shows that optimism pays
_________________
'Edith Swan takes it up the Swanee and she loves it more than Christmas day.'
dantheman- Consultant
- Number of posts : 15458
Location : Lincolnshire ( the veg patch of England)
Registration date : 2008-02-03
Re: selling really good pots
Yes PP, if you check the sold listings on some of the crazy EB sellers listings then they are often ticking over items even at silly prices and there are a few tricks to find out what offer they sold for.
Re: selling really good pots
As a matter of interest, given that there are inherent risks in selling on Ebay. What would be top money value item you would risk on there?
Myself about £200.
Myself about £200.
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
I have sold big ticket items through ebay but always met up with the buyer and took cash + an email address
Last edited by dantheman on June 3rd 2018, 8:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
_________________
'Edith Swan takes it up the Swanee and she loves it more than Christmas day.'
dantheman- Consultant
- Number of posts : 15458
Location : Lincolnshire ( the veg patch of England)
Registration date : 2008-02-03
Re: selling really good pots
I’ve sold camera equipment for over £500 on eBay. I’d be more than happy to sell studio pottery for the same amount if I had anything worth that much! Biggest ticket item I’ll be listing at some point is a Bitossi piece which will probably go abroad. I’m hoping to get £400-£500 for it.
_________________
Carrot cake is just fake cake
Re: selling really good pots
Horses for courses really I suppose. Some top potters do very well on Ebay, Alan Wallwork for example. Others struggle.
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
Ebay is very fickle - forget selling anything with damage or restoration. Rare perfect pieces from major names do well but if is obscure or not likely to be searched for then you can bag a bargain or lose a fortune.
I spend a lot of money on eBay and in auction houses on ceramics. I love crappy photos, groups of mixed pottery and people with little knowledge about what they are selling. At fairs I often end selling items to those who are happy to list at inflated prices on eBay only to get low prices two years later.
I spend a lot of money on eBay and in auction houses on ceramics. I love crappy photos, groups of mixed pottery and people with little knowledge about what they are selling. At fairs I often end selling items to those who are happy to list at inflated prices on eBay only to get low prices two years later.
Mordeep- Number of posts : 847
Age : 56
Location : Richmond Surrey
Registration date : 2015-06-05
Re: selling really good pots
I don’t understand sellers who regularly list at massively over inflated prices on eBay. There are nice enough pots on that that I’ve seen going round and round for years at three or four times the pots’ worth. Do they just put their collections up there that they really want to keep?
_________________
Carrot cake is just fake cake
Re: selling really good pots
maybe it's just to keep their other halves happy?
_________________
'Edith Swan takes it up the Swanee and she loves it more than Christmas day.'
dantheman- Consultant
- Number of posts : 15458
Location : Lincolnshire ( the veg patch of England)
Registration date : 2008-02-03
Re: selling really good pots
There is one seller of studio pottery in particular, whose name starts with an x, I think we all know him. Has studio for sale at massively inflated prices. Three or four times there normal selling prices. Have always wondered why. He trades on an upmarket quality spiel, so I wonder if it is all part of the selling strategy? Being there is always a Mug out there somewhere.
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
I’m seeing ‘sponsored’ teabowls by Micki Schloessingk, etc, at well over £200 in my saved Teabowl search. Crazy prices, and it must cost the seller something to list it as Sponsored content
_________________
Carrot cake is just fake cake
Re: selling really good pots
See one of them has sold at 'Best Offer' price.Original price being £230. The average price for a Micki teabowl on Ebay? £30 or so? Presumably he got a lot more than that.
Perhaps there is a distinct Method in the seeming Madness.
Perhaps there is a distinct Method in the seeming Madness.
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
I can relate to that Dan. I keep listing a Roger Frith piece, only to change my mind again & again, I think it must drive certain interested parties nuts.
The funny thing is, I have a replacement (my frog pot) for the Frith piece and thought I would just swop them over and let the Frith go, but all I have done is stick them together and put one of the other pieces into the kitchen until I decide where that goes.
The problem I find is that there are just so many lovely pieces out there and it is impossible to display everything at the same time, so I just keep switching things around and will grudgingly box something away for a while if I have to.
The other side of the coin for me is that if I want to keep buying I must sell something, so what pieces do I love the least, that is a tough one..
The funny thing is, I have a replacement (my frog pot) for the Frith piece and thought I would just swop them over and let the Frith go, but all I have done is stick them together and put one of the other pieces into the kitchen until I decide where that goes.
The problem I find is that there are just so many lovely pieces out there and it is impossible to display everything at the same time, so I just keep switching things around and will grudgingly box something away for a while if I have to.
The other side of the coin for me is that if I want to keep buying I must sell something, so what pieces do I love the least, that is a tough one..
abstract toad- Number of posts : 524
Location : uk
Registration date : 2018-06-01
Re: selling really good pots
I listed a load of jugs, recently, that had been sat outside for the past year taking up space. Sold half of them. There are a couple I’ll probably leave on there at a fixed price/no offers because I’d be sorry to see them go.
_________________
Carrot cake is just fake cake
Re: selling really good pots
Yes I agree Naomi, fixed price is a good thing. The auction format scares the hell out of me, it is such a lottery and chances are you aren't going to get a fair price for what your selling.
I would rather keep struggling for space & storage than give things away.
I would rather keep struggling for space & storage than give things away.
abstract toad- Number of posts : 524
Location : uk
Registration date : 2018-06-01
Re: selling really good pots
If you have a Really, Really good Pot then you should not be selling it on Ebay. The type of wealthy people who can afford substantial amounts of money for a Real Quality piece, do not shop on Ebay. It would be best in a specialist auction, at as high an end auctioneer as you can get. Generally, the snootier the auctioneer, the better the chance of making a lot of money.
If you don't really want to sell it, why are you bothering listing it on Ebay? It takes a fair amount of time and research. Examine your own motives. In the end, there is not infinite room for a collector. You CANNOT keep everything.
Be realistic on price. The majority of stuff on Ebay just does not sell, that is a fact. You are not going to get the price you paid in a shop. Retail mark ups and VAT take up a huge proportion of what pay. On many items you will be lucky to get a third of what you paid.
I presume that is David Frith you are talking about there Abstract? Now he has been potting at a very high quality for over 50 years. Mainly wheel based work. He has produced a very large number of pieces at high quality. Most studio pottery collectors will probably have a piece or two of his work in their collection. Hence his work does not sell for huge sums. It should, but it doesn't. Do research, then be realistic in what you expect for it.
I use the auction format sometimes. For instance I had a Red Lustre piece by Aldermaston potter Andrew Hazelden. Had had it for some time, and sold it s a standard winnowing of my collection A deer, nicely done. But his work does not generally sell too well. The only Aldermaston potter that consistenly. does is Alan Caiger Smith. So started it at £50, that is maybe all I would get But I was careful to make a lot of excellent photos in exactly the sort of reflectiv lighting conditions that l lustre needs. The photos sod it. I went at auction for £175. A price I genuinely did not expect.
If you don't really want to sell it, why are you bothering listing it on Ebay? It takes a fair amount of time and research. Examine your own motives. In the end, there is not infinite room for a collector. You CANNOT keep everything.
Be realistic on price. The majority of stuff on Ebay just does not sell, that is a fact. You are not going to get the price you paid in a shop. Retail mark ups and VAT take up a huge proportion of what pay. On many items you will be lucky to get a third of what you paid.
I presume that is David Frith you are talking about there Abstract? Now he has been potting at a very high quality for over 50 years. Mainly wheel based work. He has produced a very large number of pieces at high quality. Most studio pottery collectors will probably have a piece or two of his work in their collection. Hence his work does not sell for huge sums. It should, but it doesn't. Do research, then be realistic in what you expect for it.
I use the auction format sometimes. For instance I had a Red Lustre piece by Aldermaston potter Andrew Hazelden. Had had it for some time, and sold it s a standard winnowing of my collection A deer, nicely done. But his work does not generally sell too well. The only Aldermaston potter that consistenly. does is Alan Caiger Smith. So started it at £50, that is maybe all I would get But I was careful to make a lot of excellent photos in exactly the sort of reflectiv lighting conditions that l lustre needs. The photos sod it. I went at auction for £175. A price I genuinely did not expect.
philpot- Number of posts : 6637
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: selling really good pots
To be fair I don't think my Frith would be classed as a really good pot, it is not a big money piece by any stretch, but for me it is a lovely thing.
I get what you say & agree with some of it, but for me at least, some pots I love more than others, I can live without them, but I am attached to them, but to a lesser degree than my really favourite pieces, which would never get sold. So even the ones that I am happy to sell get hung onto for longer than I should, so everything backs up. Some can go into boxes as I know they will come out again at some point. Some will be given to family members as I know I will get to see them again on a regular basis. Some will get sold and I can then get more.
Why would I not do this, it is a delightful feeling, finding something new & beautiful, to me at least. Yes, the pots back up & there is always more than I can manage, but it is wonderful.
To be able to change a whole room in no time at all, simply by going back to pieces I have stored, that refreshes everything, if that is what I/we feel like doing.
I get what you say & agree with some of it, but for me at least, some pots I love more than others, I can live without them, but I am attached to them, but to a lesser degree than my really favourite pieces, which would never get sold. So even the ones that I am happy to sell get hung onto for longer than I should, so everything backs up. Some can go into boxes as I know they will come out again at some point. Some will be given to family members as I know I will get to see them again on a regular basis. Some will get sold and I can then get more.
Why would I not do this, it is a delightful feeling, finding something new & beautiful, to me at least. Yes, the pots back up & there is always more than I can manage, but it is wonderful.
To be able to change a whole room in no time at all, simply by going back to pieces I have stored, that refreshes everything, if that is what I/we feel like doing.
abstract toad- Number of posts : 524
Location : uk
Registration date : 2018-06-01
Page 1 of 2 • 1, 2
Page 1 of 2
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
|
|