ID of Signature on Newlyn Watercolour ?

by Nodifer January 14th 2018, 4:44 pm

As Header. Would anybogy be able to identify this watercolour of Newlyn please ? Any help much appreciated

ID of Signature on Newlyn Watercolour ? P1030011

ID of Signature on Newlyn Watercolour ? P1030011

ID of Signature on Newlyn Watercolour ? P1030010

by **NaomiM** January 14th 2018, 6:07 pm

I'm afraid I can't read it, but if anyone can work out the first letter then there's a directory of Cornish artists here -

https://cornwallartists.org/index

by Nodifer January 14th 2018, 6:31 pm

Yeah, I have had a look at that, I also have the book of artists in Newlyn & West Cornwall, but I just cant pin it down, it's so unclear. It wasn't visible in the frame and I initially thought T H Victor, till I got it out. It's actually better than a Victor looking at it anyway but such an oft painted scene!

by **22 Crawford St.** January 14th 2018, 7:04 pm

I know you won't like it but it looks very much like tourist Hong Kong paintings that I have seen. That style of heavy highlights in black white probably gouache. The Chinese make a fortune each year selling much higher quality 'copies' of all sorts of paintings in volume.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2375270/Dafen-Oil-Painting-Village-thousands-artists-recreate-paintings-sale-overseas.html

Happy for you to prove me wrong but I don't think so.

by Nodifer January 14th 2018, 7:18 pm

Hope not ! But im not saying your wrong. the only thing going against that is it was in an old frame and the mounting tape to affix to mount was old and dusty as it came off

by **22 Crawford St.** January 14th 2018, 7:27 pm

They easily go back as far as the 70s probably further, where there are tourists there are things to sell them

by **NaomiM** January 14th 2018, 9:17 pm

Tbh, the same thought occurred to me as the technique is very 'spikey' with vertical lines that are more common on Chinese paintings

by **hercules brabazon** January 18th 2018, 11:23 am

.....but I think the Hong Kong painters preferred generic scenes rather than specific named locations.

by **philpot** April 11th 2018, 7:31 am

You have to take pictures in context of course.
An idyllic Victorian/ Edwardian scene with a few small sail boats in a small harbour.
Which is entirely untrue. If this is supposed to be a picture of its time, then a 'Newlyn' harbour would have been a mass of fishing boats and figures. In the Victorian era Newlyn was a hugely busy fishing port.
Moreover, that is harbour is very small. Not much more than a cove. Newlyn harbour was big,busy, and commercial.
No figures. Idyllic scene. A generic furniture painting out of someone's imagination. Could be Chinese, but there a lot of other people doing this type of thing as well.

by **dantheman** April 11th 2018, 9:04 am

you guys have all missed the obvious clue
It was painted 14th of January this year
You really need to pay more attention if you want to be serious collectors!