Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
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Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
Unmarked lampbase.
There are some aspects to it which point to Rooke, such as the circular cartouch at the top, which I've seen on other Rooke pieces, but the shape, application and type of glaze (especially on the sids), the shape of the hole in the base, the messy way the applied decoration has been handled, even the lack of a mark....all point to it being by Wallwork when he shared a workspace with Rooke.
I sent photos to the guy who runs Wallwork's website and he said Alan was too ill atm to look at them, but he thought it was possibly by him.
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7412](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7412.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7410](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7410.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7413](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7413.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7411](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7411.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7415](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7415.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7414](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7414.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_8710](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_8710.jpg)
There are some aspects to it which point to Rooke, such as the circular cartouch at the top, which I've seen on other Rooke pieces, but the shape, application and type of glaze (especially on the sids), the shape of the hole in the base, the messy way the applied decoration has been handled, even the lack of a mark....all point to it being by Wallwork when he shared a workspace with Rooke.
I sent photos to the guy who runs Wallwork's website and he said Alan was too ill atm to look at them, but he thought it was possibly by him.
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7412](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7412.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7410](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7410.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7413](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7413.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7411](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7411.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7415](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7415.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7414](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7414.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_8710](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_8710.jpg)
Last edited by NaomiM on August 27th 2017, 2:55 am; edited 3 times in total
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Re: Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
I asked Mrs. S-P her opinion and she said it's definitely not Alan's but it could be that other chap. I mentioned Rooke and she said that was who she meant but she thought it was more likely a poor pastiche of his work.
My thoughts too.
My thoughts too.
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Re: Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
The cartouche is from one of Rooke's moulds
A mix of Rooke and Wallwork pieces for comparison. The second one is a Wallwork which was the clincher for me.
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7510](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7510.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7611](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7611.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7610](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7610.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7612](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7612.jpg)
A mix of Rooke and Wallwork pieces for comparison. The second one is a Wallwork which was the clincher for me.
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7510](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7510.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7611](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7611.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7610](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7610.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Img_7612](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/17/51/65/69/img_7612.jpg)
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Re: Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
At Blackheath Hill where Bernard Rooke rented a space from Alan Wallwork, Alan employed assistants to make the basic shapes, which he decorated.
Having slept on it, my thinking is it could have been made by one of them there or after they left.
It ought to be noted too that the typical stoneware body that Alan used throughout his career was much lighter in colour than that used for this lampbase. Not saying that Alan wouldn't or didn't use something else if necessary but it does add to the reasons that I don't think Alan made it.
Having slept on it, my thinking is it could have been made by one of them there or after they left.
It ought to be noted too that the typical stoneware body that Alan used throughout his career was much lighter in colour than that used for this lampbase. Not saying that Alan wouldn't or didn't use something else if necessary but it does add to the reasons that I don't think Alan made it.
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Glad Naomi sought more experienced opinions. I'm inclined to agree with Mr S.P. The clay isn't familiar. I have both earthenware and stoneware examples and none use that body, but as S.P. points out, Alan has used many types of clay.
Without wishing to detract from the tread.... Could anyone please tell me more about that last picture? Lampbase?
Without wishing to detract from the tread.... Could anyone please tell me more about that last picture? Lampbase?
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Re: Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
Without wishing to detract from the tread.... Could anyone please tell me more about that last picture? Lampbase?
I should have said, the photos were a mix of Rooke and Wallwork, showing the similarities in their decorative mouldings. The lamp base in the last photo is Big Ed's Rooke piece -
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t2816p75-bernard-rooke#113729
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![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Wallwo11](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/16/25/88/53/wallwo11.jpg)
![Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork Rooke_11](https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/16/25/88/53/rooke_11.jpg)
Two further examples of Alan Wallwork and Bernard Rooke. The second picture is part of a Rooke lampstand, which has similarities to the lampbase under scrutiny.
Conclusion....Not made by Alan Wallwork.
Last edited by joethehat on October 24th 2016, 12:18 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : image upload)
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Re: Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
Cheers :)
Well if the concensus is that it's not Wallwork then it must be by Rooke
Well if the concensus is that it's not Wallwork then it must be by Rooke
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I have always found that Alan's pieces always sit well in the hand. Rounded in all the right places and usually in proportion you feel you want to pick them up, touch them. The Rooke pieces just seem less appealing.
Is that just me?
Is that just me?
Re: Bernard Rooke v's Wallwork
NaomiM wrote:Cheers :)
Well if the concensus is that it's not Wallwork then it must be by Rooke
I'm not sure that can be assumed. "Most likely" yes but "must be" no.
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Early/a bit rougher Louis Hudson?
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I thought it had a hint of his work too and he worked for Alan.
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Any examples of Hudson using Rooke's moulds?
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