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Post by dantheman on January 22nd 2018, 6:58 pm

I never found the source and have also read that it is not true so I keep an open mind

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Post by dantheman on January 22nd 2018, 7:01 pm

the story went as follows
'it was used by Guy because he was not allowed  by Poole pottery to use a potter's mark' but I have seen the mark used on a piece marked with the Tm for Tony Morris which makes me wonder about the whole thing


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Post by truk10 on January 22nd 2018, 11:56 pm

Hi Dan
Annoyingly I've believed the story without really questioning it. Someone is buying a piece of mine through my website and asking about the attribution and I'm struggling. I thought it came from A Potters Life but that seems to be a false memory.

The only other thing I can think of is that a triangle is listed in the Haywood books as being a mark for a trial piece. However I've owned a lot of studio pieces with the impressed triangle mark so they cant all be trials. So I'm not sure what to think.
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Post by dantheman on January 23rd 2018, 10:15 am

the Potter's life books show all of Guy's marks so the absence of the triangle makes me even more sceptical

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Post by ppcollectables on January 23rd 2018, 11:39 am

I think the triangle in H&A relates to CSA era pieces. As I understand it the triangle mark on studio pieces is not definititive proof that the piece is by Guy Sydenham, however, for TV period who else was throwing vases, bowls etc. I had a potential customer once who only wanted early TM pieces if signed by Tony, when I showed him written and signed provenance from Tony for an early bowl that said they were not allowed to sign their work initially he still wasn't interested so there is no pleasing some people.
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Post by ppcollectables on January 23rd 2018, 11:46 am

I should have mentioned that the 11" shape 6 studio bowl did have the impressed triangle mark, and don't forget that Tony was a decorator and not a thrower so studio pieces can have both triangle ( applied to unfired clay when just thrown ) and TM mark
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Post by l33ham180 on January 31st 2018, 8:04 pm

finally got my 49er clock up and running .

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Post by truk10 on February 2nd 2018, 4:12 pm

ppcollectables wrote:I should have mentioned that the 11" shape 6 studio bowl did have the impressed triangle mark, and don't forget that Tony was a decorator and not a thrower so studio pieces can have both triangle ( applied to unfired clay when just thrown ) and TM mark

interestingly, I have one studio piece with the TV mark, Guy's "GS" mark and Tony's "TM" mark.

But, in general terms, a large percentage of the TV studio vases I've had have had the impressed triangle. My logic goes like this:

1. If it is on a large number of TV mark vases, then it can't be a trial mark.
2. If it's not a trial mark, then it must be a throwers mark
3. If it's a throwers mark, then who else but Guy was throwing the very early studio vases - I don't think there was anyone else, was there?

I suppose one check is whether anyone has a piece with both the impressed triangle and the "GS" mark. If both appear on one item it would strongly suggest that it's two different people.

One other thing - I'm not sure that I've ever seen the triangle or a GS mark on a piece with the later Studio marks.

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Post by l33ham180 on February 3rd 2018, 12:16 pm

the Atlantis come from Norwich antique fair this morning , the Studio vase arrived this morning also. Atlantis approx 6" across and the Studio vase is just under 5" tall

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Post by cycladelic on February 5th 2018, 3:57 am

Here's a similar Studio vase...

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Post by ppcollectables on February 6th 2018, 9:34 am

One last comment on the impressed triangle discussion, I think I might also have heard it said that it was an early form of quality control mark but it doesn't affect earlier comments that probably most early studio pieces were thrown by Guy.
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Post by l33ham180 on March 14th 2018, 4:37 pm

I know some of the people on here don't do facebook but all my collection is for sale and the money is going for my new property. If you are interested in any items feel free to pop my a PM . I would rather sell as a whole collection but if that don't happen I will split it up. I have already had one offer but it's a bit below what I value it at.

rough guide to what I have are as follows

22 pieces of Atlantis
2 Crisp packets
3 spears
Tony Morris sunface
Tony Morris/Christine Tate sunface nobody is certain
10.5" street plan
13 49ers as seen in my clock
another 12 or so shape 3s
14" studio plate
14" charger
8-10 pieces of graffiti

about 80-90 pieces in total at a rough guess
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Post by l33ham180 on March 30th 2018, 9:07 pm

My 2 pieces i Brought at Peterborough even though I am trying to sell


5" 49er blue stamp.



8" studio with later mark. Tiny nibble on the reverse
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Re: Poole Pottery 1960-1980 Part Two

Post by NaomiM on April 2nd 2018, 8:47 pm

Poole Atlantis vase by Susan Dipple, via ppcollectables  Most Excellent  




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Post by l33ham180 on May 8th 2018, 10:02 am

2 pieces of Atlantis for £50 so how could I say no. The larger piece is GS and measures approx 6" wide and about 5" tall. the other piece was looking sad on it's own so I had to get them both.

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Post by pete2480 on June 5th 2018, 3:12 pm

Anyone know who the decorator is who used this mark? It is off a Studio Delphis piece with a Poole Studio England mark so guess that would be 1964-67?

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Post by pete2480 on June 5th 2018, 4:17 pm

Here it is.

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Post by pete2480 on June 5th 2018, 4:21 pm

Also with the backstamp.



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Re: Poole Pottery 1960-1980 Part Two

Post by dantheman on June 5th 2018, 4:49 pm

possibly an undocumented mark belonging to Jennifer Wiles

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Post by dantheman on June 5th 2018, 4:50 pm

it's a really beautiful plate!
What size is it please?

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Post by pete2480 on June 5th 2018, 5:38 pm

It is 14" and its a bit unusual in that it has a footrim rather than the normal dished shape. Recently bought from James Miles who wasn't sure of the decorator either. I have not seen any of Jennifer Wiles work and appreciate that suggestion. Will certainly research that a little more.

I have quite a bit of studio with green/brown/turquoise glaze which fits with our décor so it had to come my way and join the collection. Also found the abstract decoration and the quality of the firing very pleasing.
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Post by dantheman on June 5th 2018, 5:47 pm

as far as I'm aware she is the only decorator from that period with those initials

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Post by pete2480 on June 5th 2018, 6:26 pm

dantheman wrote:as far as I'm aware she is the only decorator from that period with those initials

Thanks for the info.

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Post by dantheman on June 17th 2018, 5:26 pm

Sarah Worrell 1970

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