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Post by dantheman on August 19th 2014, 7:03 pm

I was given this interesting tankard recently but it's 150 years out of my comfort zone so any info would be great

18th century tankard 1781_t10

18th century tankard 1781_t11

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stamped deep into the clay are the words B,Butt Warmister 1781 and a small circular stamp with GR below the crown of England

it's 5.5 inches tall,thrown from stoneware and saltglazed

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Post by big ed on August 19th 2014, 7:30 pm

Dunno Dan , some guy called B Butt , during the reign of George the fourth , liked a bevvy in Warminster , got drunk forgot his tankard , now youv'e got it ..JEEZ I should be on AR  Innocent
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Post by studio-pots on August 19th 2014, 8:56 pm

Ed's got his George's mixed up - it was George III in 1781.

The local pottery in the South Wiltshire area at that time seemed to be far more ornate than your tankard and largely earthenware but by the end of the 18th century pottery was transported considerable distances so there is nothing to say that it was produced in the local area.

Can't really add anything more but it would be interesting to try and trace Mr. Butt as well as where the tankard originated.

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Post by NaomiM on August 19th 2014, 9:30 pm

I would have thought B.Butt was the original owner of the tankard, as it was common practice to have your own pint glass/tankard hanging from a hook at the bar you were a regular at. Might be worth asking London Museum if they have any idea where these were made.

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Post by dantheman on August 19th 2014, 9:33 pm

Thanks everyone,I'm guessing it was made elsewhere in England by someone who couldn't spell Warminster

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Post by big ed on August 19th 2014, 9:45 pm

Yes , sorry george the turd , my mistake , found some Butts that year in register

http://ukga.org/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?DB=8&action=ViewRec&bookID=59&page=73
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Post by denbydump on August 19th 2014, 11:16 pm

The interesting thing is the assay mark, which must verify the capacity (I'm guessing
one pint), which must have been impressed in manufacture, to an approved size?
Pewter tankards, measures (and weights) were assayed and stamped afterwards, as
were glasses which could be etched, by weights and weasures.
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Post by dantheman on August 20th 2014, 1:39 pm

it is a pint tankard but there are no marks other than those mentioned in my original post

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Post by denbydump on August 20th 2014, 3:14 pm

Hi Dan, Just had a chat with a mate who specialises in Breweriana.
In his opinion the name would be a publican's, not a customer's.
He would have ordered these in bulk, for his pub, with his name on,
from a pottery with weights and measures approval, hence the
crown assay mark. If there are little numbers in there, you can
easily track that down to the specific office. The nearest stoneware
manufacturers to Warminster were probably in the Bristol area.
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Post by dantheman on August 20th 2014, 3:28 pm

oh I see.

I just checked and there are no numbers

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Post by climberg64 on August 20th 2014, 6:20 pm

big ed wrote:Yes , sorry george the turd , my mistake , found some Butts that year in register

http://ukga.org/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?DB=8&action=ViewRec&bookID=59&page=73

We're there any called Seymore Butts?
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Post by dantheman on August 20th 2014, 7:00 pm

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18th century tankard Little11

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Post by dantheman on August 20th 2014, 7:03 pm

the second one is 3.5 inches tall but very similar

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Post by denbydump on August 20th 2014, 8:18 pm

OMG you have more! did you do a pub clearance Dan!
Take it there's no assay mark. Is this a 1/2 pt then?
At least they spelt it correctly this time!
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