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Post by jgibson66 November 27th 2012, 10:39 am

Looks like a bowl from the Sienna range? That would date from around 1978, 486 is the shape number.
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Post by truk10 November 27th 2012, 1:20 pm

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Why not Poole collectors administer the thread and decide what is relevant and what should be deleted? I am trying to be constructive believe me as I enjoy the site!!! (Besides somebody might have some Aegean questions)

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Hi Ian

Here's one - is this Aegean?

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Post by dantheman November 27th 2012, 1:25 pm

looks like a later Alan White studio pot

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Post by dantheman November 27th 2012, 1:32 pm

Yes Sienna


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Post by Potty November 27th 2012, 1:33 pm

I was going to say it looked like Poole, but then I read the title Big Laughter

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Post by truk10 November 27th 2012, 4:15 pm

dantheman wrote:looks like a later Alan White studio pot

Hi Dan

Afraid not - no Alan White or studio marks.

It has the impressed no.53 mark that was in use between 1973-76 when Aegean was being produced but I'm not sure whether it was part of the range or not. Interestingly, there has been a couple turn up on ebay recently - different designs/shapes but obviously from the same "range".

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Post by gareth-h November 27th 2012, 9:51 pm

It's not Aegean Kurt. Is it made of red clay? If so, it is one of the one-off studio pieces that were made alongside Atlantis I would say. I have a similar GS marked one although the neck is a different shape.

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Post by truk10 November 27th 2012, 10:18 pm

Hi Gareth

It's not a "studio Atlantis" piece either. It's made from the usual white clay rather than the red or black clay or stoneware used for those pieces.

But it's very similar in design so probably made around the same period. The reason I was thinking that it was Aegean is that the glaze used is the same brown one that was used on most of the Aegean.

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Post by gareth-h November 28th 2012, 9:25 pm

You could be right about the glaze, I think it could be the chestnut glaze used as the base on most Aegean. However, that glaze was also used on other pieces over quite a long period, including tableware, and you sometimes see square coffin vases and cache pots in it as well.

When I said it is not Aegean I meant it is not an Aegean shape, so not part of the range. The shapes were all shared with Delphis and this is not one of them. When they did specials it was in terms of decoration not form.

It has obviously be thrown, turned and sprayed so must have been made by a potter rather than a decorator hence my thought that it came from the Atlantis / studio section. It may be a free time piece by one of the potters. Dan's suggestion of Alan White may be right as he was potting there at that time.
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Post by gareth-h November 28th 2012, 9:39 pm

My mind wandered there, I also meant to say Aegean was always decorated, never plain glazed. The most common techniques were Sihouette (using rubber resist) and Sgraffito.
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Post by Troikafloyd November 29th 2012, 7:53 pm

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Hi all,
Although I'm a Troika nut I also like studio pottery etc I have a couple of Guy Sydenham pieces....here they are...


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Post by Troikafloyd November 29th 2012, 7:55 pm

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and the other..
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Post by truk10 November 30th 2012, 9:25 pm

gareth-h wrote:You could be right about the glaze, I think it could be the chestnut glaze used as the base on most Aegean. However, that glaze was also used on other pieces over quite a long period, including tableware, and you sometimes see square coffin vases and cache pots in it as well.

When I said it is not Aegean I meant it is not an Aegean shape, so not part of the range. The shapes were all shared with Delphis and this is not one of them. When they did specials it was in terms of decoration not form.

It has obviously be thrown, turned and sprayed so must have been made by a potter rather than a decorator hence my thought that it came from the Atlantis / studio section. It may be a free time piece by one of the potters. Dan's suggestion of Alan White may be right as he was potting there at that time.

Hi Gareth

Thanks for the thoughts. I agree that the shapes are not Aegean - the only thing I was going on was that stamps show that these vases were made sometime between 1974 and 1976 and they use the same chestnut glaze. But, as you rightly say, not Aegean shapes and not decorated in the Aegean style.

I'm not convinced about Alan White studio pieces. The reason being that I don't think Alan White was doing studio vases at that time and, if he was doing studio pieces, surely he would have signed them or there would be some special mark.

I'm also not convinced about being a spare time piece as there were obviously a number of them produced.

So I'm left thinking that they were either a trial that didn't go into full production or that they were a special commission for a particular retailer.

How do those theories sound?

Kurt

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Post by truk10 November 30th 2012, 9:30 pm

Troikafloyd wrote:Poole Pottery 1960-1980  Part One - Page 21 Imag0320

Hi all,
Although I'm a Troika nut I also like studio pottery etc I have a couple of Guy Sydenham pieces....here they are...



Very nice. I've always been curious about these vases - there is a range of them in black clay with a similar style of decoration. Most use the smaller atlantis shapes such as the pebble vases. They seem to have been made in the mid-late 1970s either as a replacement for Atlantis or as a last gasp of the Atlantis range itself.

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Post by gareth-h December 1st 2012, 1:22 pm


Hi Gareth

Thanks for the thoughts. I agree that the shapes are not Aegean - the only thing I was going on was that stamps show that these vases were made sometime between 1974 and 1976 and they use the same chestnut glaze. But, as you rightly say, not Aegean shapes and not decorated in the Aegean style.

I'm not convinced about Alan White studio pieces. The reason being that I don't think Alan White was doing studio vases at that time and, if he was doing studio pieces, surely he would have signed them or there would be some special mark.

I'm also not convinced about being a spare time piece as there were obviously a number of them produced.

So I'm left thinking that they were either a trial that didn't go into full production or that they were a special commission for a particular retailer.

How do those theories sound?

Kurt


Could be, I don't know anything either way to make any comment on those theories.

The other possibility is the backstamp isn't what it seems to be and it really is a later piece.
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Post by big ed December 2nd 2012, 1:11 pm

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10.5" diameter, Carol Cutler , alas has a hairline crack , hence only cost £3
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It's Tight , but it's there nontheless
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Post by NaomiM December 9th 2012, 8:09 pm

Delphis footed bowl, unmarked.
12cm dia. 6.5cm high
Are the sgraffito lines down the side unusual?

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Post by dantheman December 9th 2012, 8:55 pm

I have seen dozens and none had scrafitto work

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Post by dantheman December 9th 2012, 9:01 pm

also the glaze is my personal Poole favorite

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Post by NaomiM December 9th 2012, 9:08 pm

Photo doesn't do it justice. And it's a lovely black toffee texture in the middle.

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I have seen this shape many times but never this design or colourway,I have always assumed it's a very early studio vase but would welcome input from other Poole collectors

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Post by NaomiM January 1st 2013, 9:26 pm

Pin dish. No painter's mark. Is it possible to tell who did it just from the style of decoration?

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Post by gareth-h January 1st 2013, 10:02 pm

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I have seen this shape many times but never this design or colourway,I have always assumed it's a very early studio vase but would welcome input from other Poole collectors

Yes, 1963-4 I think. It looks like a shape 19 which should be 6 1/2" tall. The handwritten "Poole Studio" is not in the book but other examples are known. The early Studio glazes were all over the place, many of them trials, but I seem to remember a similar yellow in Cottees 2 or 3 sales ago.
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Post by gareth-h January 1st 2013, 10:25 pm

NaomiM wrote:Pin dish. No painter's mark. Is it possible to tell who did it just from the style of decoration?

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It's hard. The paintresses do have individual styles to some extent but many used the same design elements, and sometimes they signed each others work (the signature was for piece rate rather than ID) so it is always hard to be certain.

The glazes date this piece to early 1970's which limit things down a bit.

I would guess Mary Albon as I have seen her use the J shapes with circles within and her dates at 1970 -1972 would fit.
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