pair of antique vases?? any ideas?

pair of oriental looking vases

say oriental but could be English, look soft paste porcelain...

any ideas??????

I suspect they are Japanese, possibly 19th century or earlier because of the lack of a mark. The circles motif is Japanese, as is the crane. The peach and butterfly are also seen on oriental designs.
Alternatively it's an early (Georgian ) English or French version of an oriental piece - the dark colour of the cobalt blue points to an early English piece. Certainly worth asking an expert at one if the larger auction houses (although their advice can vary between correct to completely wrong so don't take it at face value, follow it up)

thankyou Naomi, will try and contact a few auctions along with some oriental specialists too.

I can tell with my knowledge they are old , early 19th century or earlier

It does look like an early over glaze clay such as pearlware which would point to an early English 19thC or 18thC date.

personally, i think they're Staffordshire, 1870s/80s Aesthetic movement - copying the Japanese style. If they're transfer printed or handpainted, that'll be the giveaway. Many Staffordshire firms were producing aesthetic designs: Copeland, Brown Westhead & Moore, Minton, Ridgways, Powell Bishop & Stonier etc etc. If yours is Staffordshire, it could be by anyone of those or another.