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Post by Acorn_Scorpio on August 8th 2013, 7:29 pm

Hello Everyone.

Just joined today and can any of you kindly help with the following signatures on two paintings on canvas I purchased at auction earlier this year:


Thanks and regards

https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/18/46/38/03/00212.jpg

Sorry can't upload pics is there anyway I can do this on this site, thanks for your help


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Post by Acorn_Scorpio on August 8th 2013, 7:58 pm

https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/18/46/38/03/00113.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/18/46/38/03/00212.jpg

This is the 1st pic with signature, painting is on canvas 100cm X 100CM


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Post by Acorn_Scorpio on August 8th 2013, 8:03 pm

Second picture with Signature measurement of painting on canvas: 150cm X 50cm

https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/18/46/38/03/00311.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/18/46/38/03/00412.jpg

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Post by dantheman on August 8th 2013, 8:07 pm

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Post by dantheman on August 8th 2013, 8:09 pm

I also had trouble so I right clicked on the thumbnail url then I could cut and paste

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Post by Acorn_Scorpio on August 8th 2013, 8:11 pm

dantheman many thanks once again managed to get the link up on my threads above

The pic of the couple, I have seen duplicates sold on ebay (without the artists signature) and the colours are brighter
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Post by NaomiM on August 8th 2013, 10:25 pm

Welcome to the forum.
I googled cityscape painting ladies and several popped up on google images, similar to yours, ie painted with a pallet knife, with retreating figures wearing raincoats and with umbrellas. They are listed on sites selling large paintings relatively cheaply, and without any mention of an artist. Such paintings are churned out of China and Eastern Europe by a production line of jobbing artists and art students. Sometimes they bear signatures but they are usually just forenames or, like yours, illegible.
Their value is based on size and how decorative they are, rather than on who painted them.

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Post by Acorn_Scorpio on August 8th 2013, 11:29 pm

Hello Thankyou Naomi

I purchased these two oil paintings on canvas from a reputable auction where they were selling fine art and some painting were genuine Gordon King ( which I should of purchased also) I was just keen to get a value on them as I am considering to sell them. Also the painting with the couple in paris, I saw replica copies on ebay without the artists signature and the quality was not as good as mine.
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Post by beedragon on August 9th 2013, 12:27 am

I certainly don't want to disparage your paintings but looking at the signatures from a handwriting analysis side, the letter formation doesn't flow. It does seem like someone who wasn't familiar with our alphabet (i.e. Chinese) might have simulated a signature.

I'm quite prepared to be proven totally wrong though :)
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Post by NaomiM on August 9th 2013, 12:42 am

Acorn_Scorpio wrote:Hello Thankyou Naomi

I purchased these two oil paintings on canvas from a reputable auction where they were selling fine art and some painting were genuine Gordon King ( which I should of purchased also) I was just keen to get a value on them as I am considering to sell them. Also the painting with the couple in paris, I saw replica copies on ebay without the artists signature and the quality was not as good as mine.
Thank you once again for your help

If you think the auction house misrepresented the paintings in their catalogue, then you may be able to get your money back. But they really should have known better.

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Post by NaomiM on August 9th 2013, 12:47 am

We get a lot of these sorts of paintings uploaded on the forum. Harbours + boats, and mountains + lakes, are also common.

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Post by tenpot on August 9th 2013, 8:23 am

the so called paris scene looks more like manhattan with the iffel tower I quite like it tho
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Post by Acorn_Scorpio on August 9th 2013, 10:59 am

I Haven't been misplaced by the auction, I was stating Paris as this is how a copied version was listed on ebay. I think it may be Shanghai.
I am looking to sell both paintings and was just looking at a value as these painting are big in size (100cm x 100cm & 150cm x 50 cm)

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Post by NaomiM on August 9th 2013, 11:09 am

I'm afraid we don't give values; it depends on what anyone's prepared to pay for it.

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Post by tenpot on August 9th 2013, 11:31 am

what does the reverse side look like? if that is shanghai it could be a contemporary piece
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Post by dantheman on August 9th 2013, 11:49 am

to be frank I thought Chinese import the second I set eyes on it which means (if I'm correct) the present market value is £20 or less

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Post by NaomiM on August 9th 2013, 12:00 pm

dantheman wrote:to be frank I thought Chinese import the second I set eyes on it which means (if I'm correct) the present market value is £20 or less
Maybe double that for the big canvas.
But you can ask what you want for it. Someone unfamiliar with Chinese imports might think they're getting a bargain.

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Post by tenpot on August 9th 2013, 12:40 pm

but if it is a contemporary painting of shanghai it could have more interest if it is from Dafen (most paintings are with 10,000 artists at work) then its another matter
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Post by dantheman on August 9th 2013, 1:30 pm

so not the Eiffel tower then?

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Post by tenpot on August 9th 2013, 2:40 pm

http://wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/buildings/the-new-shanghai-skyline-at-night_31180.htm a wallpaper version?
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