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Post by RoyJ99 July 16th 2013, 7:28 pm

Anyone know what company produces this backmark

http://www.marksandlibrary.com/marks/ceramics/mark-16228_lion

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Post by NaomiM July 16th 2013, 7:40 pm

You could try thepotteries.org
Had a look under M and there's a T Morris, Longton, Regent Works
1892-1941 But they don't have an example of the mark, and no mention of a lion.

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Post by Oldmagpie July 16th 2013, 7:41 pm

Thomas Morris Regent Works, Longton,  Staffordshire turn of the century 1892-1912.
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Post by RoyJ99 July 16th 2013, 7:52 pm

Thanks Oldmagpie. found the mark on both Worthpoint and Kovels but both require subscriptions to find any information. Anywhere that you know of that I could use todate my piece?
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Post by Oldmagpie July 16th 2013, 8:02 pm

Sorry nothing I know offhand that will get more accurate than somewhere in those 20 years unless your item has a pattern you can track through one of the replacement china companies. Shrugs
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Post by RoyJ99 July 16th 2013, 8:05 pm

Backmark lion above TM Ka9q



this is the mark on my piece, trying to find a date for it.
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Post by big ed July 16th 2013, 8:28 pm

My book states Thomas Morris 1892-1942 , TM with the Lion , early printed mark from C 1912 trade name of "Crown Chelsea China"
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Post by RoyJ99 July 16th 2013, 9:48 pm

Thanks big ed, can I ask which book you are using?
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Post by big ed July 17th 2013, 6:45 am

It's the "Handbook of Pottery & porcelain marks " J.P.Cushion , It's around 270 pages and covers a few countries in brief.
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Post by studio-pots July 17th 2013, 8:21 am

Oldmagpie is correct, as it seems that from around 1912 they used a crown mark with "Crown Chelsea China" in a fancy circle underneath. From Encylopardia of British Pottery and Porcelain Marks.

You aren't really going to get closer to an exact date, as your plate doesn't have a date stamp, as used with a few potteries and, of course, dinner service patterns were in production for a number of years.

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Post by RoyJ99 July 17th 2013, 6:26 pm

thanks for all the info guys. When I bought it(cup&saucer) my guess was late 19th/early 20th as it just had that early Art Nouveau look about it, bargain at £2.
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