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Post by fuzzyedges May 20th 2013, 11:45 am

Although it is chipped I am left with a few unanswered questions
It is a 1906 nursery series plate designed by J Ogden
There was 11 plates in the series
Q1 there appears to be Little jack Horner,Cry baby bunting,Little miss Tuffit and I think this one is The pied piper of Hamlin but whats the rest??
Q2 The inital after the d2504 number is I think the painter and it varies on diffrent plates I have seen AR ont net but I have no idea who they are or who painted this?
Q3 As information on the tin tin net seems very limited is this series hard to find ?? should I sell or try and find the other 10?

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Post by NaomiM May 20th 2013, 1:13 pm

I expect you'll find the rest if you pick up a copy of a Victorian book of nursery rhymes. eg, Humpty Dumpty. Ole King Cole, The Grand Old Duke of York, Four and Twenty Blackbirds, Jack & Jill, Hey Diddle Diddle...
A few more here:
http://pinterest.com/anneunice/victorian-nursery-rhymes-1880-s/

I doubt you'll find the decorators. There would have been quite a few, semi-skilled and working on a piece rate. A better route would be trying to find who drew the original pictures. They may have been commissioned, or come from a published book of nursery rhymes. Maybe a Royal Doulton archivist or museum or county library has the Royal Doulton archive.
As to whether or not to find the other 10, you can always put save a search on ebay in case more come up, or on one of the online auction websites such as liveauctioneers.



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Post by fuzzyedges May 20th 2013, 1:42 pm

I thought of going through the nursery rhymes but there is more than 11
The designer was J Ogden but there is little out there on him
I was just hoping a Doulton fan was lurking that might know
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Post by NaomiM May 20th 2013, 1:46 pm

Found this

J. Ogden Nursery Rhyme Plates series F. c1906.
Some of these twelve rare plates illustrated in Louise Irvines series three book are only shown as line drawings from Doulton's pattern books as only a few have come to light.
[eg 'Little Jack Horner' and 'Cry Baby Bunting']
J. Ogden was a painter & illustrator who was exhibiting in London in the early 1900's. His initials are on one plate.
The plates are 9" wide.

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Post by NaomiM May 20th 2013, 1:50 pm

Rare Royal Doulton Nursery Rhymes F 'Old King Cole' Rack Plate by J. Ogden c1910

Nursery Rhymes F was introduced in 1906 as a series of rack plates with twelve characters designed by J. Ogden. Here we have a superb plate of a boy dressed as Old King Cole with his dog sitting attentively at his feet. Printed in sepia with washed colours and a stylised art nouveau border. In great condition, with fine crazing typical of these wares, but no chips, cracks or restoration. A rare item which displays beautifully. Monogram 'JO' to the front. Printed Royal Doulton mark, painted series reference D2922 and indistinct impressed date. Diameter 26.75cm (10.5in)

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Post by NaomiM May 20th 2013, 1:50 pm

Baby Bunting plate. This plate features a very bold illustration of Baby Bunting’s father off to catch a rabbit and the baby in the background with the rabbit. There is a small facsimile signature for J Ogden near father’s boot. The series ware number is D2539 and there are initials written under the number which appear to be DL. The series was introduced in 1906 and withdrawn by 1930. This plate is from the Series Ware F on page 90-91 of Louise Irvine’ Series ware Book 5.

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Post by NaomiM May 20th 2013, 1:57 pm

Seems they produced sets in a mix of coloured and monochrome transfer prints.

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Post by fuzzyedges May 20th 2013, 2:03 pm

NaomiM wrote:Found this

J. Some of these twelve rare plates illustrated in Louise Irvines series three book .
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The word rare is not incourageing for collecting the missing 11 even so I may stick my hand in my pocket and buy a louise irving series three book to find out more
I am a Yorkshire lad and paying close to £8 for a book to look up a £1 plate seems awfully un religious

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Post by fuzzyedges May 20th 2013, 2:06 pm

I had assumed the coloured ones were of a different series
It seems odd to do a flow blue then a colour version in the same series but who knows
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Post by fuzzyedges May 20th 2013, 2:18 pm

The little miss muffit plate has the same d2540 on its rear
Is this the series Number I wonder and D2922 and D2539 are another series

http://www.heirloomsantiques.com.au/little-miss-muffet-plate-p-1208.html
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Post by fuzzyedges May 20th 2013, 2:21 pm

I have now found "buy a fat pig" with the same number D2540

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pair-of-royal-doulton-nursery-rhyme-plates-i-bu-1-c-c04a4ad7b5

This auction was 2004 I hope it can stay here as it shows this plate and the Piper plate
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Post by Eclectic-Dorset May 20th 2013, 4:30 pm

Rare is great for collecting , its no fun if you can build a collection in a year or two , collections that are worth having take a life time or maybe as little as 10 years if you are lucky.imho.
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Post by fuzzyedges May 20th 2013, 4:35 pm

Eclectic-Dorset wrote:Rare is great for collecting , .
But painful on the wallet usually
Scarce and cheap is more interesting for me
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Post by Eclectic-Dorset May 20th 2013, 6:50 pm

Same here , but it normally gets expensive as you're collecting gets more refined ,well thats what i have found .

Mind you saying that i did find a verry rare coffee pot last week on Ebay that i have been searching 16 years for £20 buy it now i could not believe my luck i would have paid upto £250 / £300 for it Big Laughter
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