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Post by big ed on April 3rd 2013, 3:59 pm

What's your preference when it comes to buying pottery items ,studio or otherwise , by that I mean do you prefer to display Vases , Bowls , jugs , Plates , I always tended to go down the vase route , but am increasingly steering towards bowls , studio teabowls or chawans whatever you want to call them , you get an item that fits in the house easily and can be picked up , large pots are great as are jugs and plates although not many dimensions to the potters work on a plate/ charger , what do you prefer ?
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Post by dantheman on April 3rd 2013, 4:04 pm

I'm not keen on bowls as they're difficult to display and plates look a bit naff on hangers imo so also not my first choice.

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Post by big ed on April 3rd 2013, 4:11 pm

Yup , i agree Bowls are difficult to show well , by the very nature of the form , plates I can't go for as they need a wall display , or rack , I don't like clutter ( just me) , maybe we just have too much stuff Shrugs and maybe we could all put on a show of our own , "The 20th Century Forum Collection"
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Post by big ed on April 3rd 2013, 4:12 pm

We would haver to hire the albert hall mind you Laughter
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Post by dantheman on April 3rd 2013, 4:15 pm

i think we should organise a 20th century fair this summer and sell a few tons of clutter

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Post by big ed on April 3rd 2013, 4:16 pm

dantheman wrote:i think we should organise a 20th century fair this summer and sell a few tons of clutter

Good Idea , I can see you getting a good tenners worth no problem Big Laughter
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Post by dantheman on April 3rd 2013, 4:21 pm

it would be great! We could find out what everyone is like... in the flesh!

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Post by big ed on April 3rd 2013, 4:27 pm

dantheman wrote:it would be great! We could find out what everyone is like... in the flesh!

Actually it's great Idea , imagine a Group from a FORUM , showing a massive display in the flesh , and what you said meeting people N' shit , as well , it would involve a helluva lot more like minded people than what's on offer at the moment , venue would be required , but joking aside , I can't see why we don't think big .
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Post by big ed on April 3rd 2013, 4:33 pm

Also it would take a lot of planning and I wonder what SP would think of being in the forefront of an idea like this .
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Post by dantheman on April 3rd 2013, 4:58 pm

we would need a big field,some marquees,portaloos,a water supply...

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Post by big ed on April 3rd 2013, 5:02 pm

No not a pop festival Dan , just a gallery we can't let the riff raff in Laughter
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Post by Davee on April 3rd 2013, 5:08 pm

I'm in Jumping For Joy The wife wants the dinning room back and I need to get in the garage to find some tools. Have to hire a van to move all my stuff Rolling Eyes

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Post by brin mcardle on April 3rd 2013, 5:53 pm

i'm in ....and i bet you goyjus would
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Post by Potty on April 3rd 2013, 5:54 pm

big ed wrote:We would haver to hire the albert hall mind you Laughter

Ok so that just about covers Naomi's collection, but what about the rest?? Cheeky Big Laughter

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Post by Potty on April 3rd 2013, 6:06 pm

Vessel's or purely sculptural items I prefer generally, especially for displaying.

Teabowl's are not too bad to display, but bowls and larger I find a nightmare to try and display.

Plates can be put on a plate stands, but need to be very nicely decorated for me to have any interest in displaying them.

My main preferences would be originality and/or very skilled potting (to include form).





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Post by philpot on April 3rd 2013, 6:57 pm

Its all that pretentious Leach Japanese aesthetic fingy with the Chawan/Teabowl.Bit Kung Fu Panda nowadays Laughter
Yunomis/Chawans galore,but neary a Mug in sight...
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Post by Potty on April 3rd 2013, 7:17 pm

I think the lack of a handle does make teabowl's etc more of a blank canvas for the potter to use as a base, so maybe more to it than just because of Japanese influence?

I expect some are only called a Chawan / Yunomi for the sake of a name, to describe it's possible domestic use.

I'm probably wrong though Big Laughter

P.S. Nothing wrong with a bit of Kung Fu Panda! Excellent

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Post by philpot on April 3rd 2013, 7:31 pm

Would British potters be actually making Yunomi/Chawans if it was not for Bernard Leach and the Leach school influence? And as that school dies out.Will they still be made?
Having said that,one of my favourite pieces of pottery is a cut sided Micki Schloessingk Yunomi that just fits the hand like a glove,and is so natural in balance and form that it almost becomes a natural extension of the arm.
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Post by NaomiM on April 3rd 2013, 8:00 pm

Potty wrote:
big ed wrote:We would haver to hire the albert hall mind you Laughter

Ok so that just about covers Naomi's collection, but what about the rest?? Cheeky Big Laughter


Ha ha, just back from Tescos with half a dozen fruit boxes to pack more stuff into the loft. Big Laughter

Bowls are a real pain to display, but I still love them. I tend towards cats and jugs and little things for display.

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Post by Potty on April 3rd 2013, 8:05 pm

There is influence, I'm just saying that the label of Yunomi/Chawan is probably more of an excuse for some potters, to use these small forms as a blank canvas for their art. Many certainly don't seem to care much for Japanese aesthetics.

I expect were it not for Leach, then a lot of potters would not be making sculptural pieces either. His influence was huge and will have affected more than meets the eye (in my opinion). We could do with more like him to raise the profile of studio ceramics. Most Excellent





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Post by skipposal on April 3rd 2013, 8:07 pm

I started out collecting jugs - lord knows why, maybe it was the archaeologist in me. I slowly changed from that to a variety of forms from contemporary potters, some for use, some for display. More recently I've been buying a reference collection of past studio potters so looking for representative forms. Now turning back to contemporary work and usually it's what I can afford rather than what I'd really like. I actually like open forms more and I'm afraid I do like a nice yunomi or chawan - I think there is a modern japanese influence at work now in Britain, quite a lot of potters I like are managing to get study trips or residencies in Japan or China and they are also seeing fabulous work by people like Ken Matsuzaki and Lee Kang Hyo over here which must inspire them too.
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Post by Potty on April 3rd 2013, 8:09 pm

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Ha ha, just back from Tescos with half a dozen fruit boxes to pack more stuff into the loft. Big Laughter

Bowls are a real pain to display, but I still love them. I tend towards cats and jugs and little things for display.

So.. your saying the Albert Hall may be too small? Excellent

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Post by skipposal on April 3rd 2013, 8:49 pm

And on the topic of moving our unwanted pots on - how about a swishing event? Women all over the country do this behind closed doors I understand - you bring clothes you don't want along, add to a pile, then select clothes (from others), you like. If you do it for charity you make a donation for everything you take. If there's a fight for the same item, you draw lots. Could work for pots (so long as SP brings along all his nice stuff from his loft) Most Excellent
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Post by studio-pots on April 3rd 2013, 8:56 pm

philpot wrote:Would British potters be actually making Yunomi/Chawans if it was not for Bernard Leach and the Leach school influence? And as that school dies out.Will they still be made?

Poor old Bernie gets blamed for all kinds of things but I don't see him having anything to do with something that is by and large a 21st Century phenomenon. Something that I think has resulted from many British potters visiting Japan and the States and the interchange of ideas that way.

When I first started exhibiting British potters in the late 1990s you would get yumonis in a show and maybe the odd teabowl but nothing like you see today. Back then potters were making mugs and charging around 15 for them but they began to realise that if they left off that tricky handle and called it a yunomi they could ask 40/45 and sell them quicker. Once other potters saw this the idea caught on. Next the realisation that those cereal bowls you were selling for 25 could have a name change to teabowl and suddenly you could ask 5 or 10 times as much. What potter isn't going to do that?

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Post by NaomiM on April 3rd 2013, 8:58 pm

Potty wrote:

So.. your saying the Albert Hall may be too small? Excellent


All I'm saying is, if anyone else wants to come is the NEC at Birmingham available?

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