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Post by r-and-f on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:20 am

This heavy studio pottery (or art pottery) vase with a mottled, slightly drippy blue glaze looks and feels quite old.  

On the base are impressed Edinburgh, and a monogram which looks like a small D inside a bigger B.

The book shows a mark like this for Dora Billington, but I can't find any reference to her having potted in Edinburgh. Can anyone help, please?

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Post by NaomiM on Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:43 am

We've had this mark before, but it wasn't identified.

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t8782-initials-db-id-needed#80714


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Post by r-and-f on Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:29 am

Wow! What a memory! Yes, definitely the same mark, and I can see similarities in the glaze. But sadly it doesn't get us any further forward, because there are hardly any Dora Billington pots on Google images for comparison. Frustrating!
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Post by climberg64 on Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:42 am

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This was attributed to Gordon Beaver but I can't find mention of him, so I don't know how reliable that is.

The mark is a B in a hexagonal impressed mark. This one seems to have an overlying D also and a separate A.

Colours don't appear well in this pic.


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Post by studio-pots on Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:27 pm

As you have expressed doubts about the information and, like you, I can't find any reference to a Gordon Beaver or Beever being in that area and making pottery, I think it is best to move the thread here.

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Post by r-and-f on Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:24 am

I have three pots by this mystery Edinburgh potter, but absolutely no clue as to who he or she might be.  Discussed previously on this thread: https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10160-blue-pottery-vase-could-it-be-by-dora-billington.

A similar or identical mark is attributed in the BSPM book to Dora Billington, so I did a little bit of investigation to try to find out if Dora Billington might have potted for a time in Edinburgh.  She had a long career as a teacher at the Central School of Art and Craft in London, but I couldn't account fully for her whereabouts during 1941/2 in the period when the School was evacuated from London.  But I couldn't trace any record of her being in Edinburgh at that time, so that idea turned out to be a dead end.  

I feel sure that one day this potter will be identified . . . but when?
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Post by NaomiM on Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:57 am

IDed as Derek Beaver

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Post by r-and-f on Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:50 am

A purplish vase by the elusive Derek Beaver. I'm wanting to try to write something about him but can't find out any biographical information.

Naomi: can you please let me know where you got his name from?

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Post by NaomiM on Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:42 am

That’s a good question. I don’t remember but it must have been unequivocal otherwise I would have put a maybe or possibly in the sentence. There was a Scottish Pottery website which is now behind a paywall so it may have been from that.

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Post by r-and-f on Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:31 am

Thanks Naomi. Can you maybe recall which website it was?
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Post by NaomiM on Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:01 am

Nothing’s appearing. I seem to have lost my Pinterest saves from that website too. I guess it was on one of the now defunct photo hosting sites and they didn’t copy them across to a new one.

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Post by r-and-f on Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:38 am

Thanks again Naomi. I was wanting to include a chapter about Derek Beaver in a book I'm trying to write about forgotten Scottish potters. Looks like it's going to be a very short chapter Pondering
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Post by NaomiM on Fri May 03, 2019 5:31 am

Possibly a long shot but the potter Marshall Coleman says in his blog that he researched Dora Billington and potters of her era like Richard Lunn and Wilfrid Norton. I wonder if he also knows about Derek Beaver?

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Post by r-and-f on Mon May 06, 2019 9:12 pm

Thanks again Naomi. I've corresponded with Marshall before and he was very helpful then. I'll see if he knows anything about Mr Beaver.
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