Blue pottery Lion maybe this is poole pottery?

hi, this lion to me looks very similar to the common poole pottery animals, however i cannot find a lion that looks like this one also the base appears very different to the norm, this piece has some crazing to the glaze
maybe it is a piece trying to be poole pottery or maybe this is a piece from poole pottery,
i would appreciate your thoughts on this one.

ps, i have now cracked the imaging service

thanks
rob s

Hi Rob

Poole didn't produce a Lion in this range and the blue animals they did weren't "hollow" like this one - ie., that have a base with a hole in it allow air out when firing. Finally, it's rare to have a poole piece without a stamp. So put that together and you can be pretty certain that this isn't Poole (although I have no idea who do produce it).

wade?

hi dan, hear what you're saying i searched through poole sites and found only 1 lion standing which was a trial piece, understand about the base, the pics i have taken are done with a flash so not very clear when viewing the material i.e pottery, also in the past i did have afghan hound produced by poole which did have this style base and marked poole (not blue though), definatly not wade different material i.e pottery, also i have common blue poole dolphin and am sure this is same pottery material used as this lion has, but does have a different base like you say with firing hole, i will take another pic using natural light of the material used on this lion, it is in my opinion very much the same as poole pottery, just like to add that this was very dirty when i bought it and does have crazing to the glaze whch would suggest a little age, maybe someone has been very cunning in the past and tryed to replicate poole pottery even down to the materials used?

Thanks

rob s

Probably them clever chinese

Hi Rob

Here's a link to all the blue animals that Poole made - even the trials.
http://www.animallblues.co.uk/blue-glaze-guide.htm

And all the stoneware animals
http://www.animallblues.co.uk/stoneware_guide.htm

hi truk, im looking at a blue lion now standing model from the poole pottery collectors club, im not saying the lion i have is definetly poole but they did produce a lion standing in blue, not great with comps dont know how to link this page but if you search poole pottery lion in google, then go on poole pottery collectors club site then in the search facility in there type (Lion) you will see this on the 2nd shelf up (a lion in blue) directly above a jaguar also in blue

rob s

truk10 wrote:Hi Rob

Here's a link to all the blue animals that Poole made - even the trials.
http://www.animallblues.co.uk/blue-glaze-guide.htm

And all the stoneware animals
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I would suggest that someone should update animallblues as clearly this does not show all animals in blue produced by Poole Pottery.

rob s.

Ah, i know the ones you are talking about. Those trial pieces were, and I hope I get this right, done by at Poolezone . They were an attempt by Roger Hartley (he also runs the animalblues website) at a joint venture between Poolezone and Poole to keep the animal series (and Poole) alive. They never made it into production and there is a bit of a debate as to whether they should be classified as Poole items as the were produced outside the company under contract rather than inhouse by Poole.

To get an answer as to whether this is one of the trail pieces he produced, send Roger an email.

I already did

Hi truk,

thanks for this info on poolezone, in all honesty i have never heard of this before but im always learning thanks to you people here and give credit where credits due your obviously very knowledgeable on this subject so thanks for putting me right here, my apologies for any doubt i had with the info you supplied, i kind of feel abit now.

thanks again truk and dan,

rob s

Hi Rob

Not a problem at all - still got to try and figure out who did produce it.

Kurt

Hi Truk,

Could it be possible that this may be chinese copying the style of poole, i don't know if they did this sort of thing, although they do try make decorative glass in similar style to that produced by other glass makers, just a thought.

rob s

I'm now thinking Dartmouth pottery is the maker of this lion after finding a lidded pot with the Dartmouth mark in the same colour.

Anglian pottery, they used sticky labels but not sticky enough in this case

The photos are a bit too blurred to tell, but looks a bit too blue for Anglian Pottery, (which is a relatively thin greenish-blue glaze over a soft white earthenware body). Also, all the ones I've seen have an A.P. and number inscribed on the underside.

rob s wrote:I'm now thinking Dartmouth pottery is the maker of this lion after finding a lidded pot with the Dartmouth mark in the same colour.

Very possible. It's the sort of traditional shape that tended to be copied by Devon potteries such as Dartmouth.
Anglian Pottery was far more original in their designs (even if their pots did tend to look Art Deco period).

Seen a few more Anglian Pottery animals and they have a hole in the glaze covered base rather than no base, which is another reason why I doubt this is AP.