Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

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Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by 20th-centuryboy on Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:52 pm

I bought this at a carboot sale last year and have still never worked out what it is? When I bought it I thought it may be a Frank Thrower design but I don't think they ever made anything this colour at Dartington. It could be modern but it was another of those pieces that when you picked it up I just had that feeling it was something?? Any help greatly appreciated.

http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/15/29/73/30/pink_s10.jpg
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/15/29/73/30/pink_b10.jpg

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by flying free on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:00 pm

Have you looked on Designlasi, to see if it might be from Finland? Not sure about that colour though but I dont' know enough to know to be honest. Does it change colour under different light sources, i.e long life bulb or fluorescent, to daylight? Looks a bit neodymium colourish.
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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by 20th-centuryboy on Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:28 pm

Woooah! Neodynnium? - hold the magic mushrooms a mo? I'll have to check this out! I'll get back to you once I've exposed it to different light temperatures. Agree it does have a Scandinavian vibe though?

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by fianelly on Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:21 am

Hi - looks to me like Oiva Toikka's "FLORA" design which has been made by Nuutajarvi, iittala and Arabia variously over time. Has also been copied widely in SE Asia. Can't comment on the colour though...

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by 20th-centuryboy on Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:40 pm

Hi Fi - Yes def right style pattern although I think this one may be a far-eastern copy as the rim is polished and the pattern of the base is not the same as other examples. No sign of anything in this colour either?

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by fianelly on Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:44 am

Me again... I knew that the bowls were copied for sure, but now I have proof on the jug/glasses as well

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Ingrid Glass Thailand... bought these to keep as a reference.

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by Pip on Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:21 am

The originals by Oiva Toikka came in clear glass and a turquoise colour which I believe is reasonably scarce.

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by fianelly on Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:21 am

hi - thought you may be interested to look at this; apparent evidence of the "pink" or "mauve" with actual Nuutajarvi labels!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220632829509&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1154

(Hope this doesn't contravene site policy. I waited until the listing ended!)

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by 20th-centuryboy on Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:34 am

Hmmm, maybe my bowl isn't a copy after all as it is exactly the same colour! (see pics at top of this thread)

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by fianelly on Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:39 pm

yes :) My thought exactly!

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by Pip on Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:59 pm

Ignore my previous post about the turquoise colour earlier - I was thinking about something else! These didn't come in turquoise as far as I know.

I must say I was surprised to hear that there might be Far Eastern fakes of the Oivva Toika Flora design - if I had to stick my neck on the line without handling your item I'd say it was OK (not a copy).

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by Christine on Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:37 pm

Looks like neodymium glass to me

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Post by 20th-centuryboy on Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:47 pm

Found a couple of very similar bowls on the US Ebay site for sale and they describe the glass as being Alexandrite? The changes colour from a mauve to pink depending on light temperature etc.

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by Pip on Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:41 pm

Alexandrite is pretty much another name for Neodymium (sort of) - cue Christine with her impressive scientific knowledge :)

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Re: Dartington - Frank Thrower style, but by who?

Post by Christine on Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:48 am

Salts of neodymium are used to colour this glass and give it its colour-change properties. Alexandrite is just one of the colour names used. The colour change should be pink/mauve (incandescent) to blue/green (fluorescent).

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