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Post by RVsaid on June 23rd 2017, 4:23 pm

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I was pretty confident these 11 and 9 cm tiles were Wallwork but a curt message from J Jansen has made me wonder. Love the little round one but looking at them with fresh eyes perhaps they are not, may even be Jersey pottery?

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Post by philpot on June 23rd 2017, 5:14 pm

Did the self appointed 'expert' give any reason for his decision? Usually on Ebay mistakes and attributions are just plain barmily wrong. Can't say the same about these though. Seen a reasonable number of Alan Wallwork tiles(tho I don't collect them, but have a dozen or so of his pieces) and these look fairly kosher. But then, I'm no expert! Laughter
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Post by RVsaid on June 23rd 2017, 5:24 pm

They have a website that was advocated for referencing tiles and told me I had personally upset Alan by listing the tiles as his when, in their self imposed opinion, they are not. Oddly I just pulled the sale and came here without any retaliation to the attitude of their message. Must be coming down with something 😷
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Post by denbydump on June 23rd 2017, 7:39 pm

I think if you work your way through the thread you will find they are right.
Alan Wallwork production.

http://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t4286p125-alan-wallwork
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Post by 22 Crawford St. on June 23rd 2017, 11:37 pm

Not so sure. please post exact size and reverse.

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Post by Essenjay on June 24th 2017, 11:51 am

Blimey, if someone - anyone - becomes upset by a dubious attribution, I'd say that they have issues. At best it sounds a bit of a flounce but then I think that anyone who sells regularly on eBay will have experienced such people every so often.

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Post by NaomiM on June 24th 2017, 12:28 pm

I suspect the person is the same one who runs Wallwork's website.
Tbh they don't look right for Wallwork to me. May be Jersey instead.

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Post by RVsaid on June 24th 2017, 5:40 pm

Thanks Naomi, twas my second thought as I noted, those dimensions are right guys. Backs as shown now. Cheers all
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Post by 22 Crawford St. on June 24th 2017, 9:46 pm

They don't look right to me, too simple and size is funny. I'm no expert but Joe is.

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Post by denbydump on June 25th 2017, 12:18 am

I think you need to remove those backings for a start RV.
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Post by NaomiM on June 25th 2017, 12:24 am

The cork backing was most likely applied by the pottery. If it was Jersey Pottery there would have been an ink stamp on the cork, so I don't think removing it will help, or be possible.

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Post by denbydump on June 25th 2017, 5:43 pm

Agreed jersey are usually marked somewhere, moreoften on the front of the tile.

Soak it in meths, it will soon come off. Even hot water might do it.
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Post by studio-pots on June 26th 2017, 2:40 pm

philpot wrote:Did the self appointed 'expert' give any reason for his decision? Usually on Ebay mistakes and attributions are just plain barmily wrong. Can't say the same about these though. Seen a reasonable number of Alan Wallwork tiles(tho I don't collect them, but have a dozen or so of his pieces) and these look fairly kosher. But then, I'm no expert! Laughter

I have only seen these today but Joe had mentioned them when I saw him a few weeks ago. Joe (J Jansen) was only the messenger in this affair and the self appointed "expert" was Alan Wallwork.

All of Alan's tiles were done on factory blanks that were bought in and are often Johnson or Pilkington manufacture, so the size isn't going to prove anything.

From what Joe told me it would appear that back in the day someone had asked Alan if they could make similar tiles to him and he had said fine. Many of Alan's tiles had an ink stamp that varied over time but often this was forgotten or faded over the years.

Like Joe, if I had seen these anywhere I would have felt confident that they had been made at one of Alan's potteries but it appears not.

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Post by denbydump on June 26th 2017, 6:49 pm

Hmmm this throws into doubt a lot of attributions of tiles.
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Post by studio-pots on June 26th 2017, 7:00 pm

It probably does but the reality is that Alan had little to do with the tiles other than come up with the designs, so they are really more Wallwork Pottery items than by the man himself.

When Joe told me this it was something that was new to me, as Alan had never mentioned it to me in the past.

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Post by RVsaid on June 27th 2017, 8:41 am

See I often wondered why you had such amazing AW pieces like my recent Poppy Head and Wedge vases and then the table top, cheese board stye tiles at the same time. I had assumed some were for love and then the tiles were for sale as backing funds. Some of the tiles do have a lot of charm so don't get me wrong if you enjoy collecting them but it was just such a strange situation.
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