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Post by NaomiM Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:00 pm

tenpot wrote:doesn't look very old

Yes, it does look very clean although there was a lot of limescale inside where it had been used for flowers over the years. A similar one with an umbrella online described as being marked Mosanic, and another one with a label, so I think maybe 1960s?

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Post by denbydump Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:35 pm

Mosanic is 1920s
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Post by NaomiM Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:02 pm

Cheers Most Excellent

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Post by denbydump Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:21 pm

I haven't seen Mosanic in this exact colourway, usually more blue, not saying it's not, but almost
certainly Desvres.

This vase on the right has a similar palette, though unmarked as I remember.

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Post by NaomiM Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:53 pm

Double salt

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Faiences de Desvres (France) - Page 2 Empty DELFT style pottery with rat - Geo Martel of Desvres, France.

Post by VeryGreennkeen Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:51 pm

Recently acquired this  very odd item
I assume Dutch Delft by the typical sailing bots scene
But has a large blue figural Rat on the side.

The base has a monogram in manganese
which could be read as MG / GM
above xv111
which i guess is numerals for 18

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Post by denbydump Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:44 pm

Moved to ID my pottery.

This is by Geo Martel of Desvres, France.

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t16431-faiences-de-desvres-france


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Post by VeryGreennkeen Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:18 am

Many thanks Denby,
i was blinkered by the Dutch look & theme dont think i would have ever got to french faience
Much appreciated.
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Post by denbydump Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:36 am

Yes it's most unusual, not the normal "decor rouen", but Delft style wares were made there.
Not quite sure what it's for, and it could be missing a lid, mustard maybe.
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Post by VeryGreennkeen Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:55 am

Well, you are spot on about the lid, no cut out for spoon though.
Sorry should have shown that in first images.
Do you think the Numerals 18 could indicate date for 1918?
looks as though the 1025 is the shape number.
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Post by carolalev Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:00 am

An egg cup maybe - with a lid to keep the egg warm?
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Post by dantheman Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:05 am

cheese?

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Post by VeryGreennkeen Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:12 am

Its a bit large for an egg cup measuring about 6" tall to the top of the cover,

The bowl opening is about 3" across.
So having looked into this a bit further i think it may be a play on words
being the french for Rat is Moucharder
and a mustard pot being Moutarde,
Quite amusing i guess, cant think why else you would associate a rat with food item?
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Post by VeryGreennkeen Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:15 am

moucharder

to rat; to rat on
to tell tales
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Post by denbydump Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:40 am

Ah ha, nice to have the cover. Mustard pot is moutardier, so maybe right.

The other marks and numbers on these pieces are always a bit of a mystery,
but certainly early 20thC.
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Post by denbydump Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:07 pm

Geo Martel, Desvres, France.

Most unusual decoration, Almost oriental!

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t16431-faiences-de-desvres-france
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Post by aiko Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:16 pm

thankyou


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Post by aiko Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:25 pm

Thank you Denbydump!
any idea when it could be made? and does it any collectible value?
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Post by denbydump Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:05 pm

GM was in operation from 1900 until the 21st century, but this style could be
from the 1920s.

They are very unusual, and to have the full garniture is good.
Try ebay for desvres faience.
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Post by aiko Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:14 pm

thanks, i'll try the ebay
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Faiences de Desvres (France) - Page 2 Empty Faience fleur de lys trinket box - Desvres Fourmaintraux

Post by benwilliams Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:17 pm

Faience fleur de lys trinket box Desevres?
Am I on the right track with Desevres, later 19th or early 20th C?
Any idea on the mark?
I presume the triangle one on both bits is the decorator’s mark.
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Post by benwilliams Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:41 pm

From what I found online - the mark is probably for Fourmaintraux-Courquin (1875-1900) Desvres pottery
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Post by denbydump Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:44 pm

Yes definitely Desvres Fourmaintraux. Their marks are a minefield, No two are the same.
I might go for Fourmaintraux-Delassus 1930-35, that's the nearest match in the book.
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Post by benwilliams Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:52 pm

Denby, thank you - That’s really helpful
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