OAL - Olaria de Alcobaça - (Portugal)

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Post by Joel Paiva June 14th 2013, 11:24 pm

Can someone help me ID this vase please? There's nothing on the base. it has 26cm tall by 17 cm diameter on the large part. Thank you.

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Post by NaomiM June 14th 2013, 11:33 pm

Even though there's "there's nothing on the base" we still need to see a photo of it, to rule out other things with nothing on the base.

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Post by NaomiM June 14th 2013, 11:34 pm

I suspect it's made local to you - ie, Portugal - or Italy.

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Post by Joel Paiva June 15th 2013, 12:15 am

ok Naomi, here it is a photo of the base. Is White and have an "F" or other mark that i don't know... perhaps just a fabrication scratch. Any idea?
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Post by NaomiM June 16th 2013, 5:59 pm

The F is probably a decorator's mark. 
Seems to be made of the soft white clay that's typical of Spanish, Italian and Portuguese pieces.

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Post by R.Ferrao June 16th 2013, 11:02 pm

Hi,

I think this vase is portuguese. From the same factory as this set:

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Decorated with ceramic pencil and no marks on the base.
Still a mystery to me Shrugs
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Post by Joel Paiva June 16th 2013, 11:48 pm

Hi Rita. Maybe i found it!!!!Clap.
Let me ask you something: Secla always marked their pieces?
If not, maybe is Secla.
See this: 
The advertiser don´t show a picture from the base, but i saw one of this pitchers with glasses marked secla on the base before, as a small cruet with the same stripes marked "foreign" at it seems secla indeed


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Post by R.Ferrao June 17th 2013, 12:12 am

No Joel, these pieces are not Secla.
Secla never used this type of ceramic pencil decoration.
They only used painted stripes.

(the OLX listing is not accurate, the seller is trying to pass it as Secla.)
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Post by Joel Paiva June 17th 2013, 12:50 am

I could swear i saw one of this set, with this pencil stripes decoration, marked secla on the base. I saw it more or less 4 month ago in an small antique shop, on a cellar, in front of jardim da parada in Campo de Ourique. And they're not painted stripes!!!
I'm very, very stubborn Rita... sometimes i think i shouldn't have been born. Frustrated
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Post by R.Ferrao June 17th 2013, 12:56 am

Well, we must find that set then Happy

Maybe it still is in Campo de Ourique.
I know that feeling of stubbornness Embarrassed
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Post by R.Ferrao September 30th 2013, 10:55 pm

Cá está Joel!!!
It's not Secla, but OAL - Olaria de Alcobaca.

E não te ponhas a discutir comigo no Facebook Big Laughter
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