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Post by Johners2000 August 21st 2019, 9:00 am

I spent some time at Leach yesterday (my daughter is doing clay days there all summer) and I asked about the plates. A couple of people, including Jo Wason, told me that the oak leaf pottery was indeed thrown and glazed by most of the potters working there at the time but that only Bernard Leach decorated them. They would make a batch of plate etc and Bernard would come along and quickly draw an oak leaf on each one and then they would go off to be glazed.
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Post by benwilliams August 29th 2019, 1:16 pm

I’ve seen a bowl at the Leach Museum, similar size, shape and glaze with a flower decoration.
Is this one with a bird uncommon. Was it a standard pattern? Can’t see a BL on it but .....

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Post by potterymad62 August 31st 2019, 7:05 pm

Pick up this lovely Leach Pottery small dish, been told it could be by John Reeve. Maybe it's by Leach himself, just wondering what date it is. I bought it for a £1 today.  At the time of purchase I could not read the seal, when I got home, out with the pencil and a bit of shading, behold the Leach mark🤣 Laughter Laughter Laughter .

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Post by NaomiM August 31st 2019, 8:13 pm

Judging from the England stamp and the clay, I think it’s a relatively early Standard Ware piece, so 1945-55?

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Post by potterymad62 August 31st 2019, 8:25 pm

NaomiM wrote:Judging from the England stamp and the clay, I think it’s a relatively early Standard Ware piece, so 1945-55?
Thanks for dates NaomiM thought it was near this period somewhere, cheers.
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Post by philpot September 1st 2019, 7:35 am

The England mark probably dates it somewhat later, 1960's. The use of the England mark was specifically down to changes in Purchase Tax (the forerunner of VAT) to favour British made goods as opposed to Foreign imports. I have never seen it used on pre 1955 standard ware. Equally the lettering of the ENGLAND mark is exactly the same typeface as on most Leach standard ware that bears this mark.
John Reeve might well by a good bet. The collector who made that suggestion on Facebook is very knowledgeable. He was an apprentice at the Leach pottery 1959-61 and also worked in Devon for a couple of years afterwards. However, it could have been by one of the other apprentices, as they allowed a freer reign on their own work in the late 60's and 70's, and it is from this time that you see apprentice Leach work with personal marks.
Very nice piece tho.
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Post by potterymad62 September 1st 2019, 9:41 am

philpot wrote:The England mark probably dates it somewhat later, 1960's. The use of the England mark was specifically down to changes in Purchase Tax (the forerunner of VAT) to favour British made goods as opposed to Foreign imports. I have never seen it used on pre 1955 standard ware. Equally the lettering of the ENGLAND mark is exactly the same typeface as on most Leach standard ware that bears this mark.
               John Reeve might well by a good bet. The collector who made that suggestion on Facebook is very knowledgeable. He was an apprentice at the Leach pottery 1959-61 and also worked in Devon for a couple of years afterwards. However, it could have been by one of the other apprentices, as they allowed a freer reign on their own work in the late 60's and 70's, and it is from this time that you see apprentice Leach work with personal marks.
         
Very nice piece tho.

Hi philpot! Thanks for the info and input, As we all know their were many students at the Leach pottery so it's very difficult to attribute this to one particular individual apprentice. I have Googled for the glaze pattern/design but no luck, mine you, I could be browsing for days when it come to Leach research, just need to see what pops up in the future regarding the design and potter, someone somewhere will always comes up with the goods and knowledge at some point in time.

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Post by philpot September 1st 2019, 12:43 pm

In treality, I do not think you will ever know.Leach St Ives in the 60's was a vwery busy production pottery,with up to 8 potters at any one time. While a nice design, it is far from a unique style. Equally it is still Leach production standard ware.
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Post by potterymad62 September 1st 2019, 12:55 pm

philpot wrote:In treality, I do not think you will ever know.Leach St Ives in the 60's was a vwery busy production pottery,with up to 8 potters at any one time. While a nice design, it is far from a unique style. Equally it is still Leach production standard ware.
So true and thanks for the info and your input, and thanks to all members and their informative replies, cracking crew.
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Post by Rochellewillow October 30th 2019, 1:05 pm

Bought these today one has a bottom to it but not convinced they match. Does anyone know if they had bottoms to them. Can they be attributed to a particular potter and timeline.

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Post by philpot October 30th 2019, 1:28 pm

Intriguing, never seen anything like that before. It only has the St Ives mark, so it cannot be attributed to any single potter. It was a busy craft pottery with a basic 'crew' of up to 8 people. It is marked ENGLAND, which is characteristic of work produced mid 60's into the early 70's, when they were producing a lot of work.
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Post by Rochellewillow October 30th 2019, 2:15 pm

Thank you they are quite crude and very heavy. Good mark though.
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Post by Davee January 16th 2020, 8:51 pm

Small striped standard ware milk jug, the stripes make it more attractive than the plain glazed pieces IMO.

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Post by denbydump January 17th 2020, 2:18 am

Nice jug Dave, is it sgraffito or slip, can't quite tell?
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Post by potterymad62 March 11th 2020, 7:46 pm

I ignored this jug twice in a Charity shop over a week ago. The first time I picked it up and looked at the mark and thought was J and it had a small chip in the lip and left without a second thought as the chip put me off. Couple of days later I revisited the same charity shop and the jug was still there, again I ignored it without looking, that was a week ago. Today I visited again and the jug was still on the shelf so I picked it up and had a look again at the mark and it dawned on me the mark was an S crossed through with two dots for St Ives, bingo The Leach pottery.

Knowing the Leach marks so well I just can't understand how I missed this first time, anyway I didn't give a second thought I made the purchase this time, lucky it was still there and wondering if anyone looked at and thought the same thing has I did Insane  Insane  Insane  Insane  Insane .

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Post by Grumpy Grandad March 11th 2020, 10:04 pm

Very nice. I just saw the 'J' at first.
What is the word(s) in the impressed elongated box below the Leach stamp? Or am I seeing things?
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Post by potterymad62 March 11th 2020, 10:46 pm

Grumpy Grandad wrote:Very nice. I just saw the 'J' at first.
What is the word(s) in the impressed elongated box below the Leach stamp? Or am I seeing things?
ENGLAND
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Post by Grumpy Grandad March 12th 2020, 12:23 am

Makes sense. I still can't see it, though, even though I now know what it says. I suppose that's the nature of impressed letters; being 3D they only look 'right' seen head-on in photos.
Still a lovely jug. I think I'd have bought it first time just because it's such a nice piece, as long as the price didn't seem excessive for a slightly damaged pot by an unidentified maker.
I'll bet you couldn't believe your luck when the penny dropped. How many more hands must have picked it up and put it down in that week?

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Post by potterymad62 March 12th 2020, 7:28 am

Grumpy Grandad wrote:Makes sense. I still can't see it, though, even though I now know what it says. I suppose that's the nature of impressed letters; being 3D they only look 'right' seen head-on in photos.
Still a lovely jug. I think I'd have bought it first time just because it's such a nice piece, as long as the price didn't seem excessive for a slightly damaged pot by an unidentified maker.
I'll bet you couldn't believe your luck when the penny dropped. How many more hands must have picked it up and put it down in that week?

Yes it would be nice to know how many picked up the jug over that week and half, anyway it only cost me £2.00 so it didn't break the bank.
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Post by Grumpy Grandad March 12th 2020, 12:04 pm

Two pounds! Clap  I would definitely have bought that purely on looks.
That said, I do tend to buy pots based on how they look rather than by maker, and although I'm a bit more clued-up nowadays I dread to think how many under-priced pots by top makers I might have walked by over the years just because they didn't appeal to me.
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Post by potterymad62 March 12th 2020, 1:11 pm

Grumpy Grandad wrote:Two pounds! Clap  I would definitely have bought that purely on looks.
That said, I do tend to buy pots based on how they look rather than by maker, and although I'm a bit more clued-up nowadays I dread to think how many under-priced pots by top makers I might have walked by over the years just because they didn't appeal to me.
I have done one better, end of last year I picked a small dish in a antiques shop for a pound. Their was a mark on the rim on the base but could not read the mark, anyway I liked it and paid, when I got home I ran a pencil over the mark and it had the St Ives Leach pottery mark and not only that later I found it was attributed to John Reeve a very early piece before they were allowed to marks their own wares. Later a collector offered me £100 for it, I gave in and sold it for the offered price, not a bad return.
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Post by philpot April 24th 2020, 5:44 pm

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The blue on this little Blue Bill Marshall pot is an unusual colour for the Leach Pottery. It makes it even more the charming.
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Post by philpot July 19th 2020, 5:00 pm

Here is an interesting link to a 'Teaching Resource Pack' produced by the Leach pottery. Mostly directed at schools and visits, there is very great deal of interesting information on the pottery history and porring at St Ives. Well worth looking at,

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