Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
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climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
I haven't seen tenmoku glaze used like that before,is it unusual to paint designs on a pot with it?
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
I think the design was painted on with iron which gives a rust colour either before or after a dip in the tenmoku. Usually the iron is used with an ash glaze as in the '(Badly stained) teapot' posted at the same time.
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Yet another unidentified JC - possibly Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford)
Hi
I'm no birdwatcher but I come across so many of these LBJs ( little brown jobs), some of which I quite like.
This is one of those , the photo makes it appear darker than it is, it is fact brown rather than black. White slip decoration on both sides and an impressed monogram which appears to be JC. 15cm high
Any ideas gratefully received . Thanks
I'm no birdwatcher but I come across so many of these LBJs ( little brown jobs), some of which I quite like.
This is one of those , the photo makes it appear darker than it is, it is fact brown rather than black. White slip decoration on both sides and an impressed monogram which appears to be JC. 15cm high
Any ideas gratefully received . Thanks
lindylou08- Number of posts : 655
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
I have one or maybe two with this mark but never been able to ID them. Would be very keen to know so I can tick them off my unknown list
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
Edited to say, it’s NOT JC for Joan Crawford.
She married in 1958 and changed her name to Joan Faithful so the JC mark is an early piece and can be dated pre 1958. She potted on Mull and Dalkeith
She married in 1958 and changed her name to Joan Faithful so the JC mark is an early piece and can be dated pre 1958. She potted on Mull and Dalkeith
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
Hmm. The two vases I have don't look old enough to be pre 58. Is there any more evidence?
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
That's the mark in Yates-Owen. I assume that's where the info came from on the ebay listing -
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504239022197/
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504239022197/
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
http://www.hmag.gla.ac.uk/john/pots/Joan.htm
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
Shame there doesn't seem to be a contact on the web page
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
These pages are maintained by Dr. John Faithfull - Curator in Geology. They are not part of the official Web pages of the Hunterian Museum - any material here is entirely my own responsibility. Some of these pages may be of professional interest to geologists, mineral collectors or museum persons. Others may not be of interest to anybody. Some bits of these pages don't work at all yet - apologies for any disappointment this causes.
J.Faithfull@MUSEUM.GLA.AC.UK
Maybe he's her son? Seems a bit of a coincidence that there are pots on a geologist's page and they share a surname.
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
It says in BSPM that Joan Crawford's mark is either painted or incised, which doesn't tie in and I agree with climberg64 that this pot doesn't look pre-1958. Also it doesn't look like Joan Crawford/Faithfull's work as found on the internet - all the early stuff seems to be earthenware.
Just because an Ebay seller, whose knowledge of studio pottery is unknown to us, says that the pot they are selling with this mark is by Joan Crawford is absolutely no proof at all.
Just because an Ebay seller, whose knowledge of studio pottery is unknown to us, says that the pot they are selling with this mark is by Joan Crawford is absolutely no proof at all.
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
Mark looks incised to me.
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
NaomiM wrote:These pages are maintained by Dr. John Faithfull - Curator in Geology. They are not part of the official Web pages of the Hunterian Museum - any material here is entirely my own responsibility. Some of these pages may be of professional interest to geologists, mineral collectors or museum persons. Others may not be of interest to anybody. Some bits of these pages don't work at all yet - apologies for any disappointment this causes.
J.Faithfull@MUSEUM.GLA.AC.UK
Maybe he's her son? Seems a bit of a coincidence that there are pots on a geologist's page and they share a surname.
Anyone fancy asking him?
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
studio-pots wrote:It says in BSPM that Joan Crawford's mark is either painted or incised, which doesn't tie in and I agree with climberg64 that this pot doesn't look pre-1958. Also it doesn't look like Joan Crawford/Faithfull's work as found on the internet - all the early stuff seems to be earthenware.
Just because an Ebay seller, whose knowledge of studio pottery is unknown to us, says that the pot they are selling with this mark is by Joan Crawford is absolutely no proof at all.
After all someone is trying to pass the mark off as belonging to Shoji Hamada !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nb the mark on my LBJ looks impressed rather than incised
lindylou08- Number of posts : 655
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
"pass the mark off" whatever do you mean?
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lindylou08- Number of posts : 655
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
climberg64 wrote:NaomiM wrote:These pages are maintained by Dr. John Faithfull - Curator in Geology. They are not part of the official Web pages of the Hunterian Museum - any material here is entirely my own responsibility. Some of these pages may be of professional interest to geologists, mineral collectors or museum persons. Others may not be of interest to anybody. Some bits of these pages don't work at all yet - apologies for any disappointment this causes.
J.Faithfull@MUSEUM.GLA.AC.UK
Maybe he's her son? Seems a bit of a coincidence that there are pots on a geologist's page and they share a surname.
Anyone fancy asking him?
Fine, I'll ask him. *wuss*
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
NaomiM wrote:JC for Joan Crawford.
She married in 1958 and changed her name to Joan Faithful so the JC mark is an early piece and can be dated pre 1958. She potted on Mull and Dalkeith
oops, typo: Joan Faithfull
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
NaomiM wrote:Mark looks incised to me.
it's impressed .
big ed- Number of posts : 11934
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
Well I've emailed him. Hopefully he'll have a mark for comparison.
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
From what he has written on his site she does appear to be his mother - he talks about pots by his mother and father and there is one by Mr. Faithfull sr. on another page of the site.
However, he doesn't appear to have a great deal of information or knowledge of their work from what he has put on the site. We'll see.
However, he doesn't appear to have a great deal of information or knowledge of their work from what he has put on the site. We'll see.
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
NaomiM wrote:Well I've emailed him. Hopefully he'll have a mark for comparison.
Thanks Naomi
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
Joan Faithfull's son confirmed the mark is not his mother's.
Possibly by a Jack Crisp, Yorkshire, c.1980s
Possibly by a Jack Crisp, Yorkshire, c.1980s
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Re: Jack Crisp (not Joan Crawford/Faithfull)
Thanks Naomi. Googling him gets a handful of possibles. Any more definite evidence you have seen?
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