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Post by Potty on June 7th 2011, 10:29 pm

Thought a Q & A thread would be useful for pottery related questions that are not worth making a separate thread for.

Please delete if you the mods do not like this idea.

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Did Springfield pottery work in stoneware? (related to the pic below)


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Post by skay on June 7th 2011, 10:35 pm

I have a question, what makes pottery Studio? I think its the difference between factory / small production - is that right?

If so, where is the line drawn please?

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Re: Random pottery questions and answers thread!

Post by skay on June 7th 2011, 10:46 pm

Oh and I have another, vaguely related to your's Potty Happy

For the ignorant, may we have a description in 'laymans' of the stoneware, earthenware terms you all geek speak of please?

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Re: Random pottery questions and answers thread!

Post by Potty on June 7th 2011, 10:49 pm

Hard to explain the long way, but to me it means pottery hand made (thrown, coiled, slab built etc) and hand decorated.

Made after a time when mass production was most viable for domestic pottery, with the use of machines etc.

I would think this is not how most would describe it, so Iíll leave it for people more informed than myself to answer :D

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Post by Potty on June 7th 2011, 11:01 pm

I'll try to answer the 2nd question.. :P

Stoneware - weight's more than earthenware (Feels like it does at least), is *usually* more of a grey(stone colour), has a different texture than earthenware. Is a tougher material.

Earthenware - Lighter than stoneware, Does not feel as dense, Often more a earthly colour (bit like terracotta). Cracks/chips more easily than stoneware.

Porcelain - usually a just off white colour, feels closer to glass than stoneware or earthenware, stronger than earthenware, will often have a nice ring when tapped. When thin enough is semi translucent.

There is hard and soft paste porcelain, hard is again more like glass and any chips will look more like chipped glass than pottery, soft paste is more grainy and chips more like earthenware, not quite such a nice ring when tapped)

There are a lot more (bone china etc) but that is the difference of the main ones, again others may be able to wite it better than I.


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Post by bistoboy on June 7th 2011, 11:12 pm

also difference of porosity and firing temperatures, and of course, the clay used to make it (or in the case of bone china, the addition of animal material)
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Post by skay on June 7th 2011, 11:14 pm

That's a good description(s) Potty, thanks. Its sort of what I thought, but gives me more confidence to question other terms the potties come out with Happy

Great thread!

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Re: Random pottery questions and answers thread!

Post by skay on June 7th 2011, 11:18 pm

bistoboy wrote:also difference of porosity and firing temperatures, and of course, the clay used to make it (or in the case of bone china, the addition of animal material)

Big Laughter You see Bisty - you just said porosity Shrugs

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Re: Random pottery questions and answers thread!

Post by Davee on June 7th 2011, 11:39 pm

skay wrote:I have a question, what makes pottery Studio? I think its the difference between factory / small production - is that right?

If so, where is the line drawn please?

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Studio Pottery is usually for the most part designed, produced, glazed and more often than not sold, by a potter who works alone or with assistants in his/her own workshop or studio. Of course there are exceptions to the rule and also lots of the larger factories have in the past introduced 'Studio' ranges as more of a marketing ploy than a real attempt at true studio pottery. Poole potteries studio pieces fall somewhere inbetween theses 2 descriptions, so where do they belong...discuss!

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Re: Random pottery questions and answers thread!

Post by Potty on June 7th 2011, 11:52 pm

Now for the diffrence between Art Pottery and Studio Pottery me thinks Cheeky

I know what the difference is to me, but I'm not even going to try and explain it, would be hard for me to put it into words :D



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Post by Davee on June 8th 2011, 7:53 am

I think Art Pottery is more about the artistic and decorative style than the manufacturing method. Studio Pottery can take many shapes, forms and have many uses, where as Art Pottery is a purely decorative medium. Well thats my thoughts anyway Happy

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Re: Random pottery questions and answers thread!

Post by dantheman on June 8th 2011, 2:12 pm

skay wrote:I have a question, what makes pottery Studio? I think its the difference between factory / small production - is that right?

If so, where is the line drawn please?

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the term 'studio' pottery refers to ceramics produced by one man who takes a ball of clay and single handedly produces a finished piece, if there are others involved the term should be art pottery but in reality most recognised studio potters take on hired help as the demand for their pottery increases

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Post by Nik the collector on June 9th 2011, 8:11 am

I believe 'studio' is a bit of a misleading generic term, the large pottery factories all had what they referred to as 'studios', but in reality were much smaller production rooms. Charles Noke, Bernard Moore, Edward Wilkes and Howson Taylor to name a few all had their own decorating studios at Royal Doulton Burslem from about 1890 onwards, where they would develop shapes, patterns and glazes, the previousley mentioned all worked together and individually to develop the Flambe glazes of what the marketing men of the time called 'art glazes' from the 'studios' of *******.
Just before the first world war Moore,Wilkes,Taylor and others left Doulton and set up on their own with small kilns, but as I don't know enough about kilns am not sure how this worked, as I am more familiar with the process used in the large coal fired bottle kilns. I am guessing that the introduction of gas fired kilns made it possible to make them smaller?
John Butler had a studio as art director at A.J.Wilkinson from 1904 onwards, and his studio wares are always referred to as art pottery made in his studio in period articles, he had room in his 'studio' for several assistants in a factory that employed 300-400 staff.
I think after the second world war with more modern techniques used to mass produce pottery at the big factories, the termonology changed - I will have to check I have some 1950's Royal Doulton catalogues somewhere but I don't think they mention 'studio' pottery in the blurb for the new veined flambe glazes.
During the 1950's it became more common for what this thread is referring to, the introduction of smaller electric kilns meant that you could set up in your garden shed or an outhouse, and therefore a smaller room or 'studio' for a one man or woman 'band' could set up and throw the pots, decorate them and fire them.
The attachment of the word studio to art pottery probabley stems from an early marketing ploy, as traditionally artists (painters) would have a studio where they were based and would sculpt or paint. Most of the pictures of George Tinworth at work show him in a long artists overall/gown in what looks like a well lit loft room (studio) at Doulton Lambeth.
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Post by studio-pots on June 9th 2011, 11:53 am

skay wrote:That's a good description(s) Potty, thanks. Its sort of what I thought, but gives me more confidence to question other terms the potties come out with Happy

Great thread!

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It is a shame that all the "experts" on the Antiques shows are not forced to read it and memorise. It annoys me when these experts, some who say that they collect ceramics, call an earthenware vessel " a piece of china".
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Re: Random pottery questions and answers thread!

Post by Potty on June 10th 2011, 1:26 pm

Potty wrote:
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Did Springfield pottery work in stoneware? (related to the pic below)



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Post by gareth-h on June 10th 2011, 10:57 pm

I went to Hartland on holiday the other year - the pottery's still going.

http://www.springfield-pottery.com

The website and my memory say they use earthenware but you could always email them to check.
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Post by Potty on June 11th 2011, 12:17 am

Thanks Gareth :)

I have my doubts of it being made by them to be honest :)

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Post by studio-pots on June 11th 2011, 8:52 am

I have never seen a piece of their work in stoneware and think that it is unlikely to be theirs.

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Post by Potty on June 11th 2011, 10:13 am

Thanks SP :)


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Post by Potty on July 4th 2011, 4:37 am

Does anybody recognize any of these marks please?

(1) (Looks like JP)


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tenmoku glaze

Post by skay on September 10th 2011, 10:04 pm

Yes! Tenmoku glaze - I've always wondered what this means?

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Post by Potty on September 10th 2011, 10:14 pm

It's a Japanese term for a glaze that originated in China that contains iron oxide. Usually black / reddish brown and often resemble patterns in split oil.

This is what I understand Tenmoku glaze to mean, but I could be mistaken.

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Post by big ed on September 10th 2011, 10:28 pm

your not mistaken Potty , that's what it is , I think it might be a good idea to have a thread of ceramic terms , there's a couple of pages in Paul Rice book that might be of interest to some , I will try and put them on later .
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Post by dantheman on September 11th 2011, 11:51 am

without breaking copyright of course

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Post by big ed on September 11th 2011, 1:25 pm

Of course , I thought about that, I don't want to bother Paul again , so a dictionary definition would be just as useful .
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