pair of German vases, again help ID maker?

This pair of vases are marked Germany on the base, i thought possibly Scheurich but only guessing at this one, any info is appreciated.

Thanks
rob.

although the number configuration is very like the soendgen keramik way , these have been ID'd as Bay keramik , Skay has some listed in the bay thread .

Thanks ed, i will try take a look at these other threads at some point