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Post by RVsaid Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Nice one, many thanks
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Post by lindylou08 Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:45 am

Hi
This small ( 4.25 inches high) vase looks clear in some lights , in others a lovely ice blue.

It has undulations in the thickness of the wall.
A really simple piece , but lovely IMHO.
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Could it be Whitefriars ? - it does appear to have a ground and polished pontil. I do have an image of the base, not brilliant, but if it helps I could post it

Thanks for looking


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Post by Nic Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:55 am

Looks like Whitefriars model 9392 in Sapphire Blue.
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Post by lindylou08 Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:41 am

Thanks for that Nic, but having bought up an image of 9392 on the Whitefriars site I'm not so sure.
Although mine could be described as being 'lobed' it only has 4 fairly undefined lobes
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Post by Nic Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:46 am

Whitefriars' quality control wasn't always amazing - I've had, in the past, WF vases that were supposed to be lobed or optic-ribbed that had barely a ripple to them.
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Post by lindylou08 Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:56 am

Most Excellent
Thanks
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Post by Nic Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:10 am

Just dug out some old photos of a WF vase that should have had quite pronounced lobes, but they were reduced to being just vaguely thicker bits in the vase wall...

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Post by RVsaid Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:54 pm

Full photo - https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/72/28/78/p1030421.jpg

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Post by CMC Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:31 am

Hi, looks like pattern number 9381 quite scarce most were diamond moulded some wave ribbed. Golden amber, sea green, sapphire ruby and twilight......

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Post by Davee Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:27 am

9030 in Amethyst

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Post by CMC Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:46 pm

Surprised no follow up comment pretty sure this your vase?

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Post by RVsaid Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:16 am

Hi Chris, sorry yes you are spot on. Many thanks
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Post by big ed Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:23 am

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Full lead crystal , controled bubbles ,stands on like four co-joined foot polished pontil .


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Post by NaomiM Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:53 am

Possibly Holmegaard

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Post by Nic Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:23 am

1950s William Wilson design (if I recall correctly) for Whitefriars.
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Post by Nic Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:46 am

Here's the details: http://whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=85

Pattern 9294, produced from 1957 onwards.
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Post by Redware Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:04 am

I have recently found this ruby red vase with controlled air inclusions. Thought it may be Whitefriars. I have found similar vase in their catalogue from 1949 : http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=10381 , it looks like Whitefriars introduced similar colour at that stage as well. 9'' in diameter and 4'' tall.

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Post by Jeffingtons Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:40 pm

Whitefriars.com is probably the place to confirm your assessment.
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Post by JoFish Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:56 pm

True, they know there stuff on Whitefriars.com especially with the more obscure pieces. However, checking your link to the catalogue I think you are spot on.

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Post by Redware Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:08 am

The dimensions seems to be right as well (24cm in diameter) but I'll post it to Whitefriars.com as there seem to be quite a few copies of Whitefriars around.
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Post by JoFish Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:59 am

There are three designs which have been copied, the drunken bricklayer (small not large), onion vase and hooped vase. These are actual copies - possibly made with the intention to deceive, though some of the colours are just not like those of Whitefriars. All three are vases from the textured ranges of the 60s and 70s.

Many glassworks have made items similar to each other, no surprise as they all sell in the same marketplace and try to produce wares that people will actually buy. Geoffrey Baxters textured designs could be said to have been inspired by Scandinavian production of the period but they are not what I would call copies. No designer works in a vacuum. Frank Thrower at Dartington reworked many traditional English shapes and gave them a modern twist as well as taking inspiration from successful Scandinavian factories.

The problem with the Whitefriars name is just that every man and his dog labels any old bit of glass with it. The advantage that the Whitefriars collector has is that the factories production is very well documented.

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Post by denbydump Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:36 pm

A large ribbon trailed vase No. 9098 in sapphire blue. Height 10 in.
Designed by Barnaby Powell 1935/36.

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Post by denbydump Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:27 am

Redware wrote:I have recently found this ruby red vase with controlled air inclusions. Thought it may be Whitefriars. I have found similar vase in their catalogue from 1949 : http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=10381 , it looks like Whitefriars introduced similar colour at that stage as well. 9'' in diameter and 4'' tall.

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Yes, shape 9116 in ruby, from the 1949 cat.
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Post by chip69 Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:48 pm

Hi

Here I have an Amber Glass Vase I am thinking its Whitefriars in style very similar to James Hogan pieces. Has a oval shaped polished pontil.

I have found some similar but can't nail down a pattern number.

Any help gratefully received.

Kind Regards Chip
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Post by chasdevlin Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:35 pm

Had a quick skim through some of the catalogues, but couldn't see it. The colour does look spot on for Whitefriars so I think your instincts are likely to be correct.
Have you tried posting it to the Whitefriars Facebook group? They're normally very good and you should get a quick reply.
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