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Post by Neil62 April 16th 2022, 1:34 pm

Hi,
New to the forum is there anyone who can identify whether this was Richard’s or Rueben’s mark.
I bought the piece as part of a lot consisting of 4 pieces - all were sold to me as by Richard Batterham from his Durweston estate.
There was no mention in the catalogue of the marks or the damage which is substantial.
I have questioned whether it was by Richard with the Auction House……they initially just didn’t answer and then when pushed refused to answer that question and others!!

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Post by dantheman April 16th 2022, 1:59 pm

Welcome to the forum, I look forward to seeing your other pots

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Post by NaomiM April 16th 2022, 1:59 pm

The England stamp would date it to c.1970s which rules out Reuben. My money’s on Richard.
Seems to be the right font, but it’s missing the dot

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Post by Neil62 April 16th 2022, 2:14 pm

Many thanks
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Post by Neil62 April 16th 2022, 2:24 pm

Thanks Dantheman - I’ve got a few you might like they are virtually all associated with the Leach Pottery!
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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 11:23 am

Good morning,
I have been reading the thread regarding the early mark by Richard Batterham and the conversation Studio Pots had with Rueben.
I think some of you will remember my moaning about a lot I bought at the Wooley & Wallis auction of Richard’s estate consigned by his family. In fairness to myself I had only just started collecting and I think it was my naïveté which resulted in the moan.
Anyway I was contacted by a forum member recently about the pot which resulted in a bit more research and my reading of the thread.
I thought I would throw this in the mix but then couldn’t locate the thread to add it.
I do think it relevant . I corresponded with Michael Jeffrey from W & W. He informed me that the piece was made by Richard and that the family had told him that Richard broke the little bud vase himself and mended it himself.
I did try to correspond with Ruben but got no response unfortunately.
Anyway the piece not only has the RB impressed stamp - not R:B but it also has the impressed ENGLAND stamp. That puts it out of range of Ruben as he wasn’t born until 1967.
Given the provenance the only reasoned logical conclusion I can reach is that this mark RB is Richard Batterham.
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Post by studio-pots May 8th 2023, 12:04 pm

Thanks for the additional information.

I haven't been able to find the thread with my conversation with Reuben either. What it needs is for me to combine all of the relevant information under the Richard Batterham thread and once I have I will let you know.


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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 12:09 pm

Thanks SP reliable as always.😇
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Post by NaomiM May 8th 2023, 12:12 pm



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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 12:24 pm

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Post by NaomiM May 8th 2023, 12:26 pm

Its ok, I found your original thread - now merged with this one


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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 12:29 pm

Are the extra photos any good Naomi?
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Post by NaomiM May 8th 2023, 12:50 pm

I’m afraid I couldn’t make out the mark on them

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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 12:52 pm

Is that because of my settings?
I took a picture blew it up and then took a screenshot but it was too large to load in terms of Pixels I think
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Post by NaomiM May 8th 2023, 1:22 pm

I think the max size our photo hosting facility can cope with is 5mb. If you can crop the photo on your camera or phone before posting it it should reduce it to a manageable size

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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 1:57 pm

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Post by philpot May 8th 2023, 5:14 pm

The mark at the bottom looks like the ENGLAND  mark used on Leach standard ware. in The Yates Owen book it sates under the Richrd Batterham entry 'RB Impressed in square or oval occasionally with ENGLAND'. A very interesting find! Ricahrd Batterham was at St Ives in 1956/57. He met his future wife there.


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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 5:22 pm

Hi Philpot - it is England I posted it on my first listing - it’s a mess.
The only relevance is it’s Richard Batterham and his mark.
I had been reading the thread from some time ago and it provides clarity for his impressed mark.
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Post by philpot May 8th 2023, 5:26 pm

Thanks for that. I wonder if the mark adds great deal of value to the piece? WELL DONE!
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Post by Neil62 May 8th 2023, 6:01 pm

philpot wrote:Thanks for that. I wonder if the mark adds   great deal of  value to the piece? WELL DONE!


Thanks for that Philpot - I was keeping it as a reminder NOT to forget condition reports but it is really badly damaged.
I had forgotten it had the ENGLAND stamp on it and had actually thought it was more likely by Ruben but he wasn’t born until 1967 and obviously the England mark would be 60s. Michael Jeffrey was insistent that Richard made it Broke it and then repaired it. All of which came from Richard’s family.
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