Kingwood Pottery tea cup - Michael Cardew?

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Post by Sbro April 29th 2023, 2:55 pm

Dear forum

Would appreciate you views on this tea cup.

Stamped “K” to base. Decoration feels like the work of Michael Cardew to me.

Thanks in advance.

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Post by philpot April 29th 2023, 4:39 pm

It is impossible to tell. Michael Cardew was only at Kingwood for a short time, and good deal of that was spent in recuperating from ill health. He never used a personal mark when there.
Occasionally you see supposed 'Cardew' Kingswood items on Ebay, but they never seem to get anywhere very much;,
Personally I don't think the decoration looks much Cardew like. But that is only my opinion!
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Post by NaomiM April 29th 2023, 4:47 pm

Maybe try to match the decoration to a piece known to be by Cardew

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Post by Sbro April 29th 2023, 4:57 pm

Thanks Naomi and Philpots as always. Came across this piece which appears to be a lidded jar / pot attributed to Cardew, 1948, sold back in 2019….

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/price-result/michael-cardew-for-kingwood-pottery-a-studio-pottery/

Additional link to auction for the jug on saleroom.com which has more shots…

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/kingham-and-orme/catalogue-id-kingha10025/lot-8c70646a-9962-4764-b89d-ab0f000d0c76
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Post by Sbro April 29th 2023, 5:12 pm

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Post by NaomiM April 29th 2023, 5:19 pm

Certainly the same decoration, but the jug is unmarked so we’re only going by the auction house or the previous owner’s attribution.

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Post by Sbro April 29th 2023, 5:26 pm

Hi Naomi

Take your point. Interestingly came across this Michael Cardew Bread Crock at Bristol Uni website

https://exhibitions.bristolmuseums.org.uk/radical-clay/pottery-for-the-everyday/

Date given 1954 Wenford Bridge. Decoration appears to echo the cup and jug somewhat…
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Post by 22 Crawford St. April 29th 2023, 9:00 pm

Not us you have to convince, it's yourself if you are keeping it You can happily attribute it to MC and stick it on your shelf - the world will not mind.

It's only if your ever come to sell it - then you have to convince the buyers. They will always be a little doubtful without a mark. It's strange here, some people are sellers and some people love to keep their finds/buys. I often see items passing through these pages on ebay a week later, not that it matters both are equally welcome.
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Post by philpot April 29th 2023, 10:09 pm

In the final analysis you just cannot be certain. There were other potters at Kingswood, and much of it was in earthenware. Personally, I would keep it. As a cup alone it would not fetch a huge amount.
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Post by 22 Crawford St. April 29th 2023, 10:13 pm

also one day you might see it's exact replica --but signed.
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Post by Sbro April 29th 2023, 10:29 pm

Thanks again to one and all for your time and comments with respect to this cup. I am enjoying it….
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Post by Sbro April 29th 2023, 10:33 pm

The cup that is…:)
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Post by philpot April 30th 2023, 9:26 pm

Interestingly the Auctioneer's description of the jug you liked to above Reads' .
'Michael Cardew for Kingwood Pottery, a studio pottery jug and cover, circa 1948, ovoid form, painted blue an brown scrolling band, unmarked, 20cm high'
Unmarked being the interesting word!
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Post by Sbro April 30th 2023, 10:43 pm

Indeed!
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Post by philpot May 1st 2023, 8:24 am

On the Other Hand. The Hammer price for that Jug at Kingham and Orme you gave the link to was £170. Given that the Market is always the final judge in these matters, that is good news!
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Post by Sbro May 1st 2023, 8:50 am

Hi Philpot,

Thanks again for your kind follow ups. Very interesting!

I’ve not seen any other examples of the cup as yet-but I’m still looking! Seeing the jug on Kinghams with its similar decoration made me think that that there may have been a full MC Kingwood tea set at some point - but who knows!

Suffice to say that my orphan cup is a great pleasure to handle!

Thanks again to one and all the for all your kind comments and help.
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Post by NaomiM May 2nd 2023, 6:59 pm

Kingwood Pottery jug at Adam Partridge auctions.
https://live.adampartridge.co.uk/m/lot-details/index/catalog/132/lot/27779

I think the decoration might be Cardew's, but whether he did it himself, or left the design for others to follow is another question. Certainly done by a proficient hand so I think the best that can be said is "possibly by" or "believed to be by"  Michael Cardew, until other pieces turn up with the same design and Cardew's stamp.
Might be worth asking Ara Cardew. He's on Facebook.

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Post by Sbro May 3rd 2023, 6:06 pm

Thanks Naomi for posting the link. Definitely very interesting. I’ve seen the form of decoration on the cup described as “Vume Lily”. I believe this is a reference to the Volta pottery period when it was used.

Hoping to get some time to dig into that work!

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Post by philpot May 3rd 2023, 6:33 pm

In his book PIONEER POTTERY Cardew refers to Vume as a style of making a Pot, rather than the decoration. He worked at Vume pottery in Ghana from 1945-48.
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Post by NaomiM May 3rd 2023, 7:01 pm

Sbro wrote:I’ve seen the form of decoration on the cup described as “Vume Lily”. I believe this is a reference to the Volta pottery period when it was used.
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He also used the Vume Lily decoration at Wenford Bridge

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/michael-cardew-wenford-bridge-studio-425434131

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Post by Sbro May 3rd 2023, 7:14 pm

Thanks again Naomi and Philpot for the great additional info. Really appreciated!

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Post by Sbro May 4th 2023, 9:00 pm

FYI what appears to be the same lidded jug,described as a coffee pot, is featured with a photo on the page devoted to Kingwood in John Edgeler’s book “Michael Cardew and the West Country Slipware Tradition” where it’s also noted that the coffee pot “bears no seals”…
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