One maybe Japanese pottery the other maybe not - ER mark in heart?

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Post by Neil62 April 17th 2022, 6:35 pm

I have a couple of pieces with no attribution. It’s I don’t hold out much hope but thought I would ask?

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Post by NaomiM April 18th 2022, 12:19 am

Looks like they are by different potters so I’ll split the thread. If either are IDed then we move their thread to the relevant section.

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Post by philpot April 18th 2022, 9:41 am

The Japanese type mark looks somewhat like that of Shigeyoshi Ichino, who was at St Ives Pottery in 1969/70. He became great friends with John Bedding, and John Bedding went back to Japan with him for a couple of years.      
           
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Post by NaomiM April 18th 2022, 11:39 am

I’ve split the thread so best to add your comment on the other one and then I can edit this thread  

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t30823-red-yunomi


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Post by Neil62 April 18th 2022, 11:43 am

Hi Philpot,
I have a piece by Shigeyoshi Ichino which I bought through St Ives Ceramics ostensibly from John Bedding.
I have looked at the two marks and I can see your point but I don't think they are the same.
The problem with the one I have of his is that the base is a little more grainy than the other. You will know the difference probably one is stoneware so it is clearer and I accept that marks change but the one I posted is both clearer, larger and of a different shape (outside) than the characters inside the vase. I can see what you are saying though and appreciate your help.
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Post by NaomiM April 18th 2022, 12:02 pm

Looks like a heart shaped mark with an ER inside

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Post by janetpjohn April 18th 2022, 11:50 pm

To me, it looks more like a heart with three kanji symbols inside.
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Post by Neil62 April 19th 2022, 11:08 pm

Thanks to both of you Janetpjohn and NaomiM.
I will have a go tomorrow and see if I can get a clearer image. I even tried to draw it but I got no further forward. It was a little dirty when I bought it and I first thought it was a butterfly but it it isn’t symmetrical - the right hand side is not the same as the left and the contents of the shape appears ‘to my uneducated eye’ to be Cyrillic or Kanji. I have no idea how to interpret it but it’s a challenge.
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Post by NaomiM April 20th 2022, 12:04 am

It looks like a moth Pondering

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Post by studio-pots April 21st 2022, 4:53 pm

I can't recall seeing a British or Japanese pot with a mark like that. The mark does look more Japanese than British but the stoneware body and the foot don't look Japanese.................... so " a moth" is the best guess. Happy

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Post by Neil62 April 21st 2022, 5:03 pm

Thanks Studio-pots
I didn’t hold out much hope - it’s bad enough dealing with British and the foibles around those without then trying to fathom something from a country like Japan. I saw a pot for sale which I was interested in. I searched him on the internet - no joy so thanks for trying appreciate your help!
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Post by studio-pots April 21st 2022, 5:38 pm

I have been dealing in Japanese ceramics for the best part of 20 years and I agree.

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