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Post by owenprice July 3rd 2021, 4:01 pm

I have been trying to find out the maker of this bizen ware vase and i'm struggling. I have been told it is by Shoji Takahara but I can't corroperate it.

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Post by studio-pots July 4th 2021, 9:18 am

I have a later vase with box by Shoji Takahara, which I am basing on the condition of your box.

The inscription on the box lid looks correct but the incised mark on my vase is different from yours (I will photograph later). Some potters did change their incised mark over their lifetime and so I wouldn't say that the vase is not the correct vase for the box but I can't confirm that it is.

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Post by owenprice July 4th 2021, 11:11 am

Thank you, that makes sense as I have seen similar. The mystery continues.
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Post by studio-pots July 4th 2021, 11:21 am

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Here is my vase by Shoji Takahara that has an accompanying signed wooden box.

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Post by studio-pots July 4th 2021, 11:27 am

Below are two images of incised marks. The first one is on the bottom of my vase and the one below it on the bottom of your vase.  

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If you aligned them they both kind of look like an A with the centre line extended outside the uprights. However, it would be difficult to think that they were written by the same hand, unless you said that your mark might be by the same hand when younger and when less confident.

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Post by studio-pots July 4th 2021, 11:45 am

Why am I suggesting the mark on mine is typical and, therefore, correct?

When I bought it from a Japanese antique dealer he said it was by Takahara but it was over 15 years ago and I had no knowledge of whether that was true or not or if the name was important. I had originally bought it to sell but decided to keep it for myself after doing some research.

Takahara was born in 1941 and died in 2000. He opened his first workshop in 1969 and so his potting life was relatively short.

I have a book published in Germany called Faszination Keramik that documents, with numerous images, the Freudenberg Collection of what Gisela Freudenberg regarded as "Masterpieces of Modern Japanese Pottery".

There are 4 pieces of Takahara's work dating from the mid to late 1980s in the collection and the mark shown is identical as a "signature" can be to that on the bottom of my vase.

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Post by studio-pots July 4th 2021, 12:02 pm

So for me, I wouldn't feel confident enough to buy it feeling certain that the vase and the box were not a marriage like the first Japanese pot and box that I bought, unless you had bought it from a source that I would trust.

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Post by owenprice July 13th 2021, 12:31 pm

Thanks for your comprehensive answer. I noticed that the line through the A shape is also different, one is on top and the other is on the bottom.
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Post by studio-pots July 13th 2021, 3:49 pm

That's correct. I think now that you have read this that I will move the thread and label it as Shoji Takahara, as all of the information here is relevant to someone seeking information about him.

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