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Post by abstract*toad May 29th 2021, 1:35 pm

Hoping someone can help me to date this and possibly suggest who might have made it.
Looks pretty new, but I do think it has some age. No personal seal mark, other than the Winchcombe seal and some painted marks.
Many thanks.
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Post by NaomiM May 29th 2021, 2:28 pm

Painted marks are likely to be a glaze test.

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Post by abstract*toad May 29th 2021, 2:47 pm

I thought as much, from what you've told me before.
Surprised there is no personal seal, it looks a good example, in my opinion.
Date wise I'm thinking 70's, am I far out ?
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Post by NaomiM May 29th 2021, 2:52 pm

I'm afraid I dont know dates for Winchcombe pieces. They seem to have kept the same range of standard ware for decades

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Post by abstract*toad May 29th 2021, 3:22 pm

No worries Naomi, thanks for the feedback, bless you 👍
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Post by NaomiM May 29th 2021, 3:44 pm

Apparently each apprentice made their own Winchcombe stamp so at some point it'll be possibly to ID and date them from the shape.

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Post by studio-pots June 3rd 2021, 10:06 am

It is from one of the ranges of functional wares that has been made for decades at Winchcombe and so there will be thousands around like it.

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Post by abstract*toad June 3rd 2021, 11:59 am

Thanks Naomi, that would be handy, though if there are so many, as studio mentions, they must have spent a few bob on stamps lol.
Thousands Studio? Wow, that surprises me. Didn't think that they were all that common, shows what little I know.
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Post by NaomiM June 3rd 2021, 12:51 pm

abstract*toad wrote:Thanks Naomi, that would be handy, though if there are so many, as studio mentions, they must have spent a few bob on stamps lol.
Thousands Studio? Wow, that surprises me. Didn't think that they were all that common, shows what little I know.

It would be interesting to see one. I doubt they're bought. I think they each carve a stamp that they can make copies from

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Post by studio-pots June 3rd 2021, 1:53 pm

abstract*toad wrote:Thanks Naomi, that would be handy, though if there are so many, as studio mentions, they must have spent a few bob on stamps lol.
Thousands Studio? Wow, that surprises me. Didn't think that they were all that common, shows what little I know.

I meant thousands of jugs and not thousands of potters!!

Well over 90% of the pots produced over the last 60 years has been the production of several different ranges of standard functional wares i.e. the same standard shapes with 3 or 4 different glaze decorations. The person who threw an item is often not going to be the person who glazed and/or fired the piece.

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Post by abstract*toad June 3rd 2021, 6:46 pm

Hahaha, I didn't think there were thousands of potters, but thousands of jugs like this surprises me, if that's the case.
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Post by studio-pots June 3rd 2021, 8:08 pm

Many of the pots was sold and used by local restaurants and hotels. I remember being there one day and someone from a local restaurant was there with a large lid in his hand. They had broken the bottom of a large lidded casserole and the man had brought along the lid to match the size and pattern. The good news was that he found exactly what he was looking for. However, the old lid was a better fit than the one being sold with it, so he still ended up with an extra lid.

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Post by denbydump June 3rd 2021, 8:20 pm

But why would a glaze trial piece be fully decorated?
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Post by NaomiM June 3rd 2021, 9:06 pm

denbydump wrote:But why would a glaze trial piece be fully decorated?

I vaguely recall being told that Ray Finch marked pieces with glaze codes every so often. It was obviously sold on to the public so there’s no reason why it wouldn’t be fully decorated. Waste not want not.

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