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Post by Potty on December 6th 2012, 4:23 pm

Well I'm no Celtic collector, but thought I'd add my "2 cents" anyway Cheeky

I do think it is a more unusual example and the base does look correct to me.

But personally I think this type of decoration (while rarer) would be much less desirable to most people, so value would be more due to the name than the piece itself.




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Post by Celtic_Fan on December 6th 2012, 6:33 pm

Yeh, I agree that does seem to be an early Mousehole piece.
There do seem to be quite a few random designs from this period - although I've not seen anything quite like this.

Dan - I'm not sure they are really similar. To me, this looks like a large diamond shaped flattish dish, rather than that deep boat type dish (Which is also the only example I've ever seen).

Like Potty I'm not too sure on 'value'. It is rare, but equally not that great a design (to my eyes). So yeh, I'd say £50-£60 would be a fair price. People would ask more but would they get it? Would I pay more? I don't think so, but can't be certain Shrugs

But a nice addition to a collection if can be got for the right price. Most Excellent
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Post by dantheman on December 7th 2012, 12:43 pm

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The forum was very useful when this piece turned up on ebay,I asked the seller if there were any partial words left on the worn out label,she told me 'stu' which suggested it was the same as the label pictured above

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Post by Celtic_Fan on December 7th 2012, 6:07 pm

Nice dish Dan - don't know how I missed it.

Obviously Mousehole, but yeh nice to have remains of a lable to confirm and show exactly which one. You've even still got f & C of middle line.
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Post by Celtic_Fan on December 12th 2012, 1:59 pm

Here's one I've recently aquired - but it has taken a lot of heavy cleaning, as it had a layer of very hard and discoloured grime on it. This wouldn't just wash off, so I've had to scratch it of with a metal object (wood and plastic wouldn't touch it). Then when virtually all scratched off, it was finally cleaned up with a cheap (not to strong) scouring pad and soapy water.

Now an even nicer early Mousehole dish 15.5 inches x 9 inches.
here's a before and after pic.
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Post by dantheman on January 12th 2013, 2:52 pm

a nice example of a mousehole fish dish

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Post by dantheman on January 12th 2013, 2:53 pm

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Post by Celtic_Fan on February 16th 2013, 11:06 am

You've probably seen this that came up on a well know auction site, but thought I'd add it here anyway.

A very unusual style of Bull design, the head isn't just looking forward it's completely tilted at 90 degrees. I could be wrong, but to my eye this heavily worked image says Bill's handy work to me. Every part of the bull's body is covered in design and the boarder has 'black' checkered design on top of the brown/purple swirls with a black dot on top of the blue - design upon design! Also unusual is the 'sprayed' brown background, rather than the usual sponged/painted Yellow or Blue background.

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The black has spread obsuring the right eye, but when held to catch the light the full face shows up better.
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The underside has a boarder of brown/purple swirls and a Mouslehole label.
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Post by l33ham180 on February 28th 2013, 10:17 am

here is a tall mug i picked up a few days ago and it measures approx 7"tall

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Post by l33ham180 on March 13th 2013, 8:57 pm

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signed on the reverse w fisher. its not quite round , more of egg shape.... approx 8" across
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Post by l33ham180 on March 13th 2013, 9:17 pm

here is the fish bowl next to a normal egg shaped bowl

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the W Fisher piece measures 8" from the mouth side to the tail and just over 7" from top to bottom
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Post by dantheman on March 20th 2013, 2:15 pm

the decoration on this tea tray seems to be part lion/part Chinese dragon but whatever it's meant to be IT'S MAGNIFICENT! Celtic (Newlyn & Mousehole) - Page 8 847164


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Post by l33ham180 on March 22nd 2013, 7:43 pm

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Early Celtic mug,sponged blue glazes,brushed pewter glaze and scrafitto


here you go dan... this is very similar to the one i picked up today
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Post by Celtic_Fan on March 29th 2013, 6:07 pm

Here's an interesting one I know some have seen, with a few unusual features.

I rather nice Bull bowl 7.5inch diam 1.75inch tall
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It stands on a shallow foot ring.
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What I couldn't see from the pic's before buying and am having trouble getting a photo to clearly show it - is that this one rather unusually, has a foot well rather than a flat inside. You can just about make some of it out where the flash reflects of the edges of the foot well - base of left horn, passing between the eyes and again around the front leg you can see the silvery line. I don't recall seeing any others with a foot well ?

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The other unusual feature is the back stamp - It has one!! Which I've never seen before.
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I've tended to consider the painted base as a Moushole feature, which I've only seen with Mousehole labels - until now! Whilst this doesn't exactly match any of the labels, the Style of the letters is almost the same as what I believe to be their first Newlyn label
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So my best guess would be that this is an early Newlyn piece, possibly before the new labels were ready? The only difference being lower case letters for Celtic rather than all Capitals. The quality of the image is also much better than I associate with the later work.

Anyone else come across this back stamp or foot well?
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Post by Oldmagpie on April 2nd 2013, 3:03 pm

Couldnt really find any other goblets in this thread so thought I'd add this one I picked up today. I had intended to move it on but I've only had it a couple of hours and I'm already envisaging drinking a nice drop of red wine from it, might end up as a keeper.  Pondering

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btw are the stems usually hollow on these at it seems a little odd for a drinking vessel to have a narrow stem that will be difficult to clean?
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Post by Celtic_Fan on April 2nd 2013, 5:03 pm

Not being at home to double check, I could be wrong. But.

I think there are a couple of sizes and the larger ones have this hollow stem, which I'm guessing goes into the foot. I'm sure the smaller ones don't do this.

Which is why I would never consider drinking out of them - who knows what is lurking down that hole Big Shock
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Post by dantheman on April 5th 2013, 11:31 am

4 inches tall with tapering sides and an unusual abstract decoration framing the early  'disco bird'.
Hand cut 'CELTIC POTTERY MOUSEHOLE' label which I think they glued on in the days where they couldn't afford sticky labels.

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Post by Celtic_Fan on April 6th 2013, 8:33 pm

That's rather nice Dan - had it long?
I don't think I've seen that style of side decoration before.
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Post by dantheman on April 6th 2013, 10:06 pm

no I bought it last week,I haven't seen that design before either

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Post by skipposal on April 13th 2013, 8:40 pm

Well, having wondered what all the fuss was about Pondering I thought I'd get a piece of Celtic for my collection, and here it is - and I'm smitten, it's simply gorgeous Celtic (Newlyn & Mousehole) - Page 8 847164 Please tell me all about it - when did the move to Newlyn take place for instance? Is it made from a white earthenware? 10.7cm (height).

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Post by dantheman on May 15th 2013, 8:50 pm

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very early Mousehole bull, made by Bill Fisher

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Post by dantheman on May 15th 2013, 8:51 pm

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and a Bill fisher cow from those early years at Mousehole

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Post by dantheman on May 15th 2013, 8:58 pm

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Bill Fisher fish dish

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Post by Davee on May 15th 2013, 9:37 pm

I really like this one Dan, IMO much better than the later Celtic pieces.

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Post by aaabiker on May 15th 2013, 10:53 pm

Where are you finding all these fabulous pieces Dan?
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