Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
Thanks Dan!
I've been having a mooch around and I'm curious. I appreciate that different pieces could have been made by Maggi or Bill, but can I try and clarify something? Was the Medallion range started after Bill left do we know?
Also I have some other thoughts
- re the Unicorn - the similarity to other decorated Folk horse sculptures and horse plates/pieces I can see, is, the unicorn/horse, the horse folk sculptures and the decorated horse pieces are all very 'pretty' with beautiful eyes. The similarity I can see between the Unicorn and the folk horse sculptures is that the head is drawn down towards the chest and is joined at that point on both. I see those as a link.
-- I also idly wondered whether Bill made these Unicorns after he and Maggi separated.
- Fired.. acknowledge that the Medallion range came about after Bill and Maggi split but then have a Medallion horse attributed to Bill Fisher. Is this because they were mould made and the design is Bill's?
I've been having a mooch around and I'm curious. I appreciate that different pieces could have been made by Maggi or Bill, but can I try and clarify something? Was the Medallion range started after Bill left do we know?
Also I have some other thoughts
- re the Unicorn - the similarity to other decorated Folk horse sculptures and horse plates/pieces I can see, is, the unicorn/horse, the horse folk sculptures and the decorated horse pieces are all very 'pretty' with beautiful eyes. The similarity I can see between the Unicorn and the folk horse sculptures is that the head is drawn down towards the chest and is joined at that point on both. I see those as a link.
-- I also idly wondered whether Bill made these Unicorns after he and Maggi separated.
- Fired.. acknowledge that the Medallion range came about after Bill and Maggi split but then have a Medallion horse attributed to Bill Fisher. Is this because they were mould made and the design is Bill's?
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
I have read several times that the medallion range was introduced after Bill left and am 99% sure that this was the case,I always assumed it was a Gwavas pottery design which was adopted by Celtic pottery whe the two potteries combined
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
?? Will have to do a search to see what you mean.flying free wrote:To Celtic-fan - I've just realised who your queen plate reminds me of so much..... Dame Maggie Smith! it's been bugging me ever since you posted it.
Dan - that is what I understand. Medalion was brought 'to the party' by Eve when he joined maggie.
You frequently see Newlyn pieces credited to Bill Fisher. This seems to be just to attract attention to the piece.
Good to hear a little from Ian. Somebody really does need to interview those involved and write a book - before it is too late. Last I read Bill was still alive and living in a carehome and maggie is doing something totally different (can't remember what at moment). I'm sure there would be a demand for such a book - I'd deffinately buy one.
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
ok, that's how I understood it as well. I was just curious as to why they were attributed to Bill , so just checking. Thanks
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
a nice unusual colourway on this lion vase
pics generously donated by Janet in Sennen
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
rare colourway and design on this slab vase,again please use the quote button Janet to add details
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Mousehole Celtic mug
Early Celtic mug,sponged blue glazes,brushed pewter glaze and scrafitto
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
What a strange looking handle on that mug Dan , don't you think ?
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
I wonder if it's on upside down
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I thought you were joking Ed but actually it was put on upside down
True studio pottery!
True studio pottery!
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
funny because I could see it was wrong,I even tried holding it like I intended to drink from it but I didn't spot the problem
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
Sorry to spoil the fun guy's - but this handle isn't on upside down. I have a number of these mousehole mugs & jugs and they all have handles this way up. But it does look as though someone may have been a little heavy handed, as they tend to be rather flatter on the top and not such a slope. If you look at mine below, they all have the large top attachment with the smaller bottom attachment.
On a different matter, is that 'coffin' vase actually Celtic ? I've never seen a Celtic one before and it doesn't 'look' that much like Celtic to me - although it may seem more so on handling and actually seeing the glaze?
On a different matter, is that 'coffin' vase actually Celtic ? I've never seen a Celtic one before and it doesn't 'look' that much like Celtic to me - although it may seem more so on handling and actually seeing the glaze?
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oops - it's not a coffin is it, it's square. This looks a similar size to those 3 which have been on ebay at various times - but obviously slightly different at the top.
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3 very rare vases,they belong to an ebay seller who kindly let me post this pic,he is about to sell them.
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
OK, here are a few of mine.
Lion
Different birds
Frog
Mouslehole mug - recognise the handle !!
Lidded Jar
Sea Horse - Look closely and you will see it's hasn't had final glaze/firing. It is course not glaze smooth and the colours have not been 'brought out' by the firing. I'm not sure why, but another 'un-glazed' to follow.
'un-glazed/fired' fish
Has anyone else got any of these 'un-glazed' ones ??
And finally (for now), a large triangle dish, which has 3 'stud' feet on the base.
Lion
Different birds
Frog
Mouslehole mug - recognise the handle !!
Lidded Jar
Sea Horse - Look closely and you will see it's hasn't had final glaze/firing. It is course not glaze smooth and the colours have not been 'brought out' by the firing. I'm not sure why, but another 'un-glazed' to follow.
'un-glazed/fired' fish
Has anyone else got any of these 'un-glazed' ones ??
And finally (for now), a large triangle dish, which has 3 'stud' feet on the base.
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Bill Fisher mermaid (Mousehole)
thanks to John who donated these wonderful images from Art Deco Etc, Brighton.
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Singers and The Fishers label
thanks once again to John who donated these great images from Art Deco Etc, Brighton.
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
A Celtic Pottery kettle - as mentioned 'Medallion Ware'
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
dantheman wrote:
a lovely hand thrown coffe pot,decorated very freely and with wonderful scrafitto detailing
Potty wrote:Can I see the base please Dan?
Regards,
Potty.
and one of the innards
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Hand thrown pin dish:
I really like it.
I really like it.
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late Newlyn bowl dragon decoration
the limited colour palette and quickly painted decoration tells me this is a late piece
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
I assume that this is Celtic Phoenix, is there an obvious way of dating this piece
Thanks John
Thanks John
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Bill Fisher cylinder vase
This one's a real whopper
many thanks to old crocks for the pics and welcome to the forum
many thanks to old crocks for the pics and welcome to the forum
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Bill Fisher cylinder vase
at 14 inches tall this is the biggest Bill Fisher vase I have come across,made at the pottery in Mousehole
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
Perhaps from the mousehole site - but there is the 15 in vase (also made as a lamp- I have one) which was done at Newlyn.dantheman wrote:at 14 inches tall this is the biggest Bill Fisher vase I have come across,made at the pottery in Mousehole
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Re: Celtic pottery (Newlyn & Mousehole)
Bill left before Newlyn?
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