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Post by big ed on May 17th 2011, 12:29 pm

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Post by R.Ferrao on June 14th 2011, 10:49 pm

18 cm x 12 cm

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Post by Nik the collector on June 15th 2011, 6:10 am

Hi is the Ram an old one. or does the impressed mark mean it is one of the more recent limited editions?
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Post by big ed on June 15th 2011, 7:04 am

http://italianpotterymarks.freeforums.org/bitossi-marks-t19.html

this might help .
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Post by R.Ferrao on June 15th 2011, 3:47 pm

Nik the collector wrote:Hi is the Ram an old one. or does the impressed mark mean it is one of the more recent limited editions?

This is a recent piece, bought in Capri in 2004, although I believe it's a 60's design. I think they still use this mark.
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Post by R.Ferrao on June 15th 2011, 6:32 pm

15 cm vase bought at the same time.

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Post by big ed on September 4th 2011, 4:50 pm

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Two vases on the outside 43cm and lamp base in the middle 45cm
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Post by big ed on September 4th 2011, 5:24 pm

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Post by R.Ferrao on March 14th 2012, 9:44 pm

Small vase marked "Flavia - Montelupo"

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Post by cinnamoncat on April 25th 2012, 9:03 am

Is this Bitossi? I have come across a picture of an identical lampbase searching the web that says it is but no other information on the site. would just like to confirm that it is.
It has no other identifying marks other than the series number, height and Italy. I did have a read on the excellent site on Bitossi ceramics and my gut feeling is that it is.
Is this an early piece or an export piece because it doesn't have the Bitossi B or mark? The impressed design on the base is not very uniform, glazed base and a substantial weight.
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Post by Adam20 on September 5th 2012, 5:07 pm

Just picked this up in a charity shop - first bit of what I think is Bitossi - anyone confirm that - it has Italy to base and some numbers, it is 10" high.

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Post by Alex_s on October 7th 2012, 1:15 pm

I know there were quite a few colourways around, and I know that some were unmarked (like this one). But do we think this is really Bitossi, or something else? It's a good heavy piece of pot, and the glaze is nice.

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Post by dantheman on November 27th 2012, 1:23 pm

with the light on

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Post by NaomiM on December 3rd 2012, 12:36 pm

Just because it looks like Bitossi, doesn't mean it is by Bitossi.
This vase was bought by a tourist 15yrs ago from an established family pottery in Sardinia and is stamped on the base Sardartis Castelsardo.
Bitossi is part of the much larger Gruppo Colorobbia which supplies the same clays and oxides used by Bitossi worldwide, so anyone can produce their own Bitossi-style range of ceramics if they wished.

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Post by NaomiM on December 3rd 2012, 1:43 pm

Alex_s wrote:I know there were quite a few colourways around, and I know that some were unmarked (like this one). But do we think this is really Bitossi, or something else? It's a good heavy piece of pot, and the glaze is nice.

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The vase shape, colouring and heaviness of the stamped decoration looks German to me.
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Post by big ed on December 3rd 2012, 5:31 pm

NaomiM wrote:Just because it looks like Bitossi, doesn't mean it is by Bitossi.
This vase was bought by a tourist 15yrs ago from an established family pottery in Sardinia and is stamped on the base Sardartis Castelsardo.
Bitossi is part of the much larger Gruppo Colorobbia which supplies the same clays and oxides used by Bitossi worldwide, so anyone can produce their own Bitossi-style range of ceramics if they wished.

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Well just because it has a stamp of a region doesn't mean it came from there either , I would say that is Bitossi no matter what is impressed on the base it wouldn't be the first time with italian pottery , so why do you think the other piece is german ?( it may well be but why )
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Post by NaomiM on December 3rd 2012, 9:38 pm

if this isn't bitossi then the whole thing needs reviewing

That's my worry.

I've been trying to confirm whether or not this brown vase is Bitossi. I'm 70% sure it is - it has the grog-filled clay, hand-stamped decoration, glazed base, and remains of a label that might be Bitossi or Raymor, but it's unmarked and the label's unreadable.
The other pieces I've found with the same pattern are also unmarked, but do have the right coloured rimini blu and are listed as Bitossi (on ebay, if that's worth anything). This may mean they were made for export and the retailer didn't want a pottery mark on it - which happened on some of Bitossi's pieces made for Raymor - or it's from another Italian pottery, maybe also retailed by Raymor.
Until I find a Bitossi - Raymor piece with the same pattern and it's label intact I won't know for certain.

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Post by R.Ferrao on December 3rd 2012, 9:49 pm

The same vase (shape and pattern) in blue is on Mark Hill's book, as being from the "Spagnolo" (Spanish) range designed by Aldo Londi from c1963 and produced into the 1970s.
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Post by R.Ferrao on December 3rd 2012, 9:52 pm

And there's another one in the same colours as yours, also unmarked, with remains of a paper label.
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Post by NaomiM on December 3rd 2012, 11:04 pm

Small lidded pot.

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Post by NaomiM on December 4th 2012, 5:26 pm

skay wrote: Happy I'm getting a little confused, I was going to suggest splitting this topic to a discussion about possible Bittossi misattributions. Or did they get positive ID's, please? Um...

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I'm still digging. At the moment I think you have to class them all under Bitossi, even if there are copycats, because I can't see a pottery making copycat Bitossi pots without being taken to court, so there must be a logical explanation such as being allowed to make them on licence, shipping them in for the tourists and pretending to make them, or maybe someone in the family moved to Sardinia and set up their own pottery.
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Post by NaomiM on December 4th 2012, 5:27 pm

...Except Alex_s's pot. That should probably be moved to ID My Pottery as it's very unlikely to be Bitossi.

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Post by MirnaMinkoff on January 13th 2013, 6:02 am

Still in shock but came across a vintage Aldo Londi, Bitossi Bull in the Rimini Blue for $20 today at the flea market. I could have easily got it for $15 or even less but I felt somewhat guilty the seller was so clueless about what she had. But given that one google search for "blue bull" would have told her what she had I can't feel to bad about someone being so lazy. I had given up hope of coming across any of the rimini blue pieces here because they are so well known and recognizable now a days. Also, this flea market is so low rent (and usually terrible) I had no worries about this being a reproduction, anything of a modern design that turns up there is always old. I tend to find one killer item there once a year for peanuts and it keeps me checking back.

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Post by Marilyn1509 on February 10th 2013, 2:05 pm

I'm a first time user here so hoping I can get this right but please can anyone help me identify this dish? It's tinglazed and really lovely quality BUT I just can't seem to identify it at all.
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