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Post by D C BEAL Sun May 31, 2020 1:05 pm

I think this bowl must be Aldermaston pottery and the mark looks very like Alan Caigar-Smith.  But I'm very puzzled by marks surrounding the central signature mark and would welcome any elucidation! The bowl is 17cm in diameter and 6cm in height. Thank you.
Alan Caiger-Smith P1000112
Alan Caiger-Smith P1000111


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Post by denbydump Sun May 31, 2020 2:05 pm

Yes it is ACS.
We have made in england in a circle.
WA I believe is a glaze code.
S ? other odd letters do occur.
The other mark looks like the date cypher, but I can't make it out
maybe a reflection, His pieces are usually dated.
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Post by philpot Sun May 31, 2020 4:40 pm

Yes it is Alan Caiger Smith. The reason why it looks different from his normal work, is that is in lustre glazes. A much more complicated process than normal Aldermaston work, as it involved experimenting with endless different glazes and numerous firings. Hence the strange letters and numbers, which are mostly all glaze codes, so they could remember what they did! Nice piece and of some value.
Weirdly, all our information on Alan Caiger Smith is in the Aldermaston thread. It is worth scrolling through the whole thread - all 11 pages! - as there is a lot of information there. Halfway down page 1 is a near full list of Aldermaston signatures and date codes.
Follow this link.
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t3346-aldermaston-pottery?highlight=aldermaston
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Post by philpot Sun May 31, 2020 4:50 pm

I see you are in Cambridge. What you want to do is go into the Primavera craft shop which is right opposite Kings. Really worth looking at, if just for the experience! They are a fabulous shop with utlra-fabulous prices. A link below to one of their online Caiger Smith pieces below. Unfortunately, your bowl is worth NOTHING whatever like the price they are asking! Laughter Laughter
https://www.primaveragallery.co.uk/products/caiger-smith-alan-lustreware-bowl-2
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Post by D C BEAL Sun May 31, 2020 5:01 pm

Thank you both very much indeed. I've been looking at the date codes and the cloest seems to be 1968....with a bit of imagination!
And yes, I know Primavera - wonderful shop ......but for me for browsing rather than buying!
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Post by philpot Sun May 31, 2020 5:12 pm

1968 would probably be a little early in the development of lustre ware.
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Post by D C BEAL Sun May 31, 2020 6:23 pm

Thank you very much ......I'll go back and have another look.
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Post by denbydump Sun May 31, 2020 6:57 pm

Try and take a better picture of the date cypher with no reflections,
maybe outside. we can usually work them out.
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Post by D C BEAL Sun May 31, 2020 7:18 pm

Alan Caiger-Smith P1000212
Alan Caiger-Smith P1000210
Alan Caiger-Smith P1000211

Do these help? Took third one upside down to try to eliminate reflection.
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Post by denbydump Sun May 31, 2020 7:39 pm

Yes that's perfect
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Post by denbydump Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:09 am

Unfortunately the date cypher doesn't seem to tally with anything in the book.
Not so important, it's a nice piece anyway.
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Post by D C BEAL Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:25 am

I wonder why......Thanks for letting me know, and for all your help.
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Post by 22 Crawford St. Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:49 am

I have a similar piece with "ACS", "W10", DATE MARK, "T2"

T2?
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Post by NaomiM Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:57 am

The WA mark is on Aldermaston lustre pieces

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Post by 22 Crawford St. Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:05 pm

Yes, I think the S mark is the date not the T2 looking one.
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Post by tenpot Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:19 pm

looks like 1966 date mark to me
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