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Post by MCWebs on October 8th 2018, 5:33 pm

Unknown No Mark - Reminiscent of Waistel Cooper

Can anyone identify the potter - looks interesting in the manner of Cooper / Brooker etc. but not marked any ideas, have seen similar things in past but no names...







would appreciate any ideas
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Post by NaomiM on October 8th 2018, 5:35 pm

There’s a long thread about these somewhere. They are basically mass produced Asian copies of a Dutch potter’s work.

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Post by MCWebs on October 8th 2018, 5:43 pm

ouch
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Post by MCWebs on October 8th 2018, 5:44 pm

was a charity shop purchase though so not too bad :)
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Post by touchdry on October 8th 2018, 5:45 pm

It looks like a Pieter Groeneveldt Netherlands ... a Travertine Candle Holder ... you can google it and judge for yourself.
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Post by touchdry on October 8th 2018, 5:46 pm

... Of course ... as has been said ... it might be an Asian copy ...
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Post by MCWebs on October 8th 2018, 6:06 pm

The deep glaze on the top is quite encouraging - but need to compare bottoms (its not marked though)
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Post by MCWebs on October 8th 2018, 6:18 pm

Can't find any info about the asian copies only from the dutch type ???
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Post by MCWebs on October 8th 2018, 6:41 pm

Doesnt look like there's much quality about it (apart from top)...
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Post by NaomiM on October 8th 2018, 7:51 pm

touchdry wrote:It looks like a Pieter Groeneveldt Netherlands ... a Travertine Candle Holder ... you can google it and judge for yourself.


That was the guy. Apparently he was very angry when he found out. His pieces are all signed and handmade, where as these Asian copies are slip cast and unsigned. I’ve found dozens of the copies in the charity shops. They’re not weather proof.

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Post by MCWebs on October 8th 2018, 11:46 pm

I shall amend to - In the style of Pieter Groeneveldt in my notes :)
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Post by philpot on October 9th 2018, 7:16 am

That base and the surface reminds me of HARTROX pottery. In the 1950's they did a lot of stoneware planters and such like, in a style identical to this. Had one in my collection yonks ago, and it looks very similar. HARTROX was stamped on, and the stamp often wears off. They were based in Castleford Yorkshire. They did other decorative items, as well. Google HARTROX images and you will see some like this amongst the decorative stuff. Some also appear on Ebay
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Post by denbydump on October 9th 2018, 9:42 am

Hmm never seen Hartrox like that, I have a major collection.
Hartrox is heavy stoneware.
Reminds me of a south coast pottery, Dorset or somewhere?
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Post by NaomiM on October 9th 2018, 10:51 am

It really is an Asian copy. There was a very long and detailed thread about it on one of the European Pottery groups on Facebook but unfortunately admin deleted it because it wasn’t European

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