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Post by ksavv on June 12th 2018, 5:58 pm

Hello!

I came across an unusual item a few months ago and I am currently looking to sell it, I am not an expert and I don't want to come up with some unreasonable price for the item. Despite my research so far I have absolutely no idea how much would such artefact go for.

This is a deep footed carved art pottery bowl with central decoration depicting a fragment of the Manchester coat of arms (crest).
The golden bends in red are derived from the arms of the Lords of Manchester, who ruled the city prior to 1301. The chief shows a ship in full sail, a symbol of trade and enterprise.
The PL which stands for Pilkington’s Royal Lancastrian pottery can be seen marked at the base of the bowl. There is also an image of a ship at the base.
There is another mark to base - the incised monogram for WSM - William S. Mycock
I have dated the item circa early 20th century
Slight discolouration in places on the decorated panel.

Dimensions : approx 16 cm in diameter, height approx 7 cm

Any help would be greatly appreciated!






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Post by NaomiM on June 12th 2018, 6:08 pm

Check completed listings on auction house sales, for an idea of value. But that can only give you a range, which depends on size, condition, and how pretty the item is.
And value would depend on whether and how you planned to sell it. If you have your own stall and want a set price then you’d have to go on past sales prices at auction. If you’re unsure then it’s best to sell via a reputable auction house, and let it find its own value. At the end of the day you can ask as much as you like for it, but that doesn’t mean collectors would be prepared to pay it.

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Post by denbydump on June 12th 2018, 6:09 pm

The date is 1905-1914 but sorry, we are unable to give valuations on the Forum.
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Post by dantheman on June 12th 2018, 6:37 pm

I think Adam Partridge is your nearest bet for valuation

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Post by philpot on June 12th 2018, 7:07 pm

A good start would be Wooley and Wallis in this link.
https://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/Search?q=WILLIAM%20MYCOCK
They are one of the major art pottery auctioneers in this country. Generally with these Pilkington lustre pieces the value is in what is going on. The amount of varying colours of lustre, the amount of varied and detailed decoration etc. The more there is, the more firings are needed, and the more expensive the final price.
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Post by 22 Crawford St. on June 12th 2018, 7:57 pm

Ksavv here is a very good explanation (on another pottery forum) of why the experienced are somewhat reticent to give valuations. It really is a minefield.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/italianpotterymarks/the-reasons-i-do-not-offer-my-opinion-on-values-t1728.html
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Post by philpot on June 12th 2018, 8:13 pm

So true. so true.
The market for Pilkingtons lustre is a bit like that for Studio pottery. People buy the work of individual decorators, and particular lustre and decoration within those particular people. It can be a narrow and very specialist field.
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Post by ksavv on June 13th 2018, 5:40 pm

Thank you all for the messages! I completely understand why giving valuations is tricky and many people would be reluctant to offer them. I have now got more information than what I had a few days ago, will contact the auctioneers that were suggested and fingers crossed the bowl to find someone who will appreciate it.
many thanks!
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