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Post by kk1234 on March 28th 2018, 9:03 am

Can anyone id these vases
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Post by philpot on March 28th 2018, 9:05 am

Unfortunately there is no photo.
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Post by kk1234 on March 28th 2018, 9:08 am

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Post by kk1234 on March 28th 2018, 9:09 am

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Post by denbydump on March 28th 2018, 9:16 am

Most unusual design.

S. Fielding & co Stoke.

This mark was used 1917-1930.
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Post by kk1234 on March 28th 2018, 9:22 am

the makers mark is not in any of the books is it genuine
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Post by kk1234 on March 28th 2018, 9:26 am

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Post by rob s on March 28th 2018, 9:26 am

I'm not sure, something tells me they look relatively modern? I've seen similar looking modern items a few years back at a local auction, originating from Stoke on Trent.

I might be wrong though.


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Post by kk1234 on March 28th 2018, 9:32 am

Did they sell for anything as I may want to send them to auction or I may keep them if not worth much Thanks
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Post by rob s on March 28th 2018, 9:38 am

I say a few years back, more like 10-15 years back. They were that new the paint was wet 😂

Only the unsuspecting buyers bought them and later started to arrive with a Crown Devon stamp and a designer/painter name Dorothy Anne!

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Post by denbydump on March 28th 2018, 10:00 am

kk1234 wrote:the makers mark is not in any of the books is it genuine

The exact mark is shown in Goddens. Why the doubt?
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Post by rob s on March 28th 2018, 10:04 am

I'm not doubting the mark in your book, though I am doubting that these vases are of that period?

The auction also used to have a regular flow of this type as well as Carlton Ware Toucans

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Post by rob s on March 28th 2018, 10:27 am

You could try and contact these by email and see what they think

http://www.fieldingscrowndevonclub.co.uk/index.html

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Post by Essenjay on March 28th 2018, 10:37 am

Oddly enough, my first reaction to the stamped mark was that it didn't seem quite right and that it looked more recent than it purports. However the crazing to the glaze looks appropriately aged (and not faked as they did a few years ago) so maybe they are of a reasonable vintage.
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Post by rob s on March 28th 2018, 10:40 am

I will eat my boots if they're from that period.

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Post by kk1234 on April 1st 2018, 8:57 am

thank you rob s for the link which came back as:
I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news but your suspicions were correct. These vases were produced by a company named DNW (now closed) that bought the name Crown Devon after Fieldings closed in 1982. Devon Ware and Crown Devon were two of the brand names used by Fieldings and were appropriated by DNW and included in fake back-stamps in order to mislead collectors. Whether this makes the vases fakes is a moot point as Fieldings never used any such design but the back-stamps are without doubt fakes. Most of the pieces under the Crown Devon name were painted (or at least were signed) by Dorothy Ann while the Devon Ware pieces were the work of Bernadette Eve. Bernadette Eve, who was the ex-wife of David N. Williams (DNW), now has her own quite legitimate pottery business but both Dorothy Ann and David Williams died a couple of years ago.
As to value; to be quite honest they are worth whatever someone in willing to pay. If one ignores their provenance, they are quite good examples of modern ceramics but have little intrinsic value.
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Post by NaomiM on April 1st 2018, 1:24 pm

Very useful information. Excellent

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Post by tigerchips on April 1st 2018, 2:14 pm

Isn't it meant to have an 'S' on the end of Fielding?
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Post by denbydump on April 1st 2018, 3:11 pm

You're right TC. Didn't notice that difference in the book.
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Post by rob s on April 1st 2018, 11:11 pm

Pottery of this type was very common at my local auction, one dealer who is also a friend of the auctioneer used to bring it up from Stoke for every sale. After they'd done people with the Dorothy Anne pots, they moved onto Lorna Bailey.

Are you from the north of England as I suspect there's quite a lot floating around up here?

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Post by kk1234 on April 2nd 2018, 10:04 am

Thanks rob s Yes north lincs will keep them
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